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		<title>By: tony k</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/adventure/2012/12/do-we-really-need-to-take-vacations-to-space/#comment-1244</link>
		<dc:creator>tony k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 16:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bland: I can understand that, and I do agree that there is much we have to appreciate on this planet. I am particularly fascinated by life in the ocean.  Looking back, I apologize for striking a rather hostile tone, I appreciate that your post has made me think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bland: I can understand that, and I do agree that there is much we have to appreciate on this planet. I am particularly fascinated by life in the ocean.  Looking back, I apologize for striking a rather hostile tone, I appreciate that your post has made me think!</p>
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		<title>By: Les Roark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/adventure/2012/12/do-we-really-need-to-take-vacations-to-space/#comment-1234</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Roark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously:
How do we get institutions of advancement staffed by people who seem to have trouble differentiating open minded questioning of the way things are done from politically correct dogmatism such as that in this article.
Come on people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously:<br />
How do we get institutions of advancement staffed by people who seem to have trouble differentiating open minded questioning of the way things are done from politically correct dogmatism such as that in this article.<br />
Come on people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Les Roark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/adventure/2012/12/do-we-really-need-to-take-vacations-to-space/#comment-1233</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Roark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit that I didn&#039;t read most of the replies, so I&#039;m sorry if I&#039;m repeating or walking on...
I&#039;m also sorry that there are so many malcontents. Why does this human condition persist? It leads to all kinds of pain and suffering. We&#039;ve reached the point where we...most of us can be happy all our lives by drug induced euphoria. We can sit in our homes blissfully, with minimum effect on the environment, not littering the beautiful barren worlds of the heavens with our presence and pass into extinction at the whim of Gaia, as it should be. This social system could be sustained, not by forcing it on everyone, but by maximum transfer of productivity through taxation of those who refuse to participate. Why explore, travail, challenge, etc. when true happiness lies a dose away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit that I didn&#8217;t read most of the replies, so I&#8217;m sorry if I&#8217;m repeating or walking on&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m also sorry that there are so many malcontents. Why does this human condition persist? It leads to all kinds of pain and suffering. We&#8217;ve reached the point where we&#8230;most of us can be happy all our lives by drug induced euphoria. We can sit in our homes blissfully, with minimum effect on the environment, not littering the beautiful barren worlds of the heavens with our presence and pass into extinction at the whim of Gaia, as it should be. This social system could be sustained, not by forcing it on everyone, but by maximum transfer of productivity through taxation of those who refuse to participate. Why explore, travail, challenge, etc. when true happiness lies a dose away.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/adventure/2012/12/do-we-really-need-to-take-vacations-to-space/#comment-1231</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the left wing cancer has spread to even the heart of the Smithsonian. Are these just your opinions or are they the opinions of the Smithsonian board? I am shocked and appalled that how badly things have changed. 

What is the problem with space tourism? - nothing as far as I can see. Or is this just some bash the rich thing.

Advance for better of for worse? Really? Every step forward solves another problem. You&#039;d rather Ferdinand and Isabella hadn&#039;t funded Columbus? Or the US govt hadn&#039;t funded Lewis and Clarke. &quot;No thanks we&#039;re quite happy living here on the east coast we&#039;re not interested what is over the horizon to the east.&quot;
We will always want to see over the next horizon it is who we are.

Why must our species advance?
You state that there is still poverty, pollution, inequality here on Earth and you are right, there is. But it is decreasing. Why? One word, knowledge. All are dropping at an exponential rate due to exponential increase in information technologies and their related fields. 
Should our advances be asymmetrical? And who gets to deicide?
Go and visit the National Air and Space Museum (you know, part of the Smithsonian) and see the small children eyes open wide with wonder looking up at Apollo 11 and Spaceship One. Amongst them will be a few who are inspired, the next generation&#039;s Goddard, von Braun or Rutan.
If it is now Smithsonian&#039;s doctrine to no longer inspire our youth with aerospace engineering then it might be a good idea to close the National Air and Space Museum first - for good.

The Chinese don&#039;t care what you think or do and so they will go anyway.
If you want your country to be side-lined like mine then this sort of thinking is the way forward. Fortunately you are in the minority. 
Being British I have come to accept this sort of anti-patriotic, leftist-liberal claptrap from European institutions safe in the knowledge that the US is still a forward thinking country.  Was I wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the left wing cancer has spread to even the heart of the Smithsonian. Are these just your opinions or are they the opinions of the Smithsonian board? I am shocked and appalled that how badly things have changed. </p>
<p>What is the problem with space tourism? &#8211; nothing as far as I can see. Or is this just some bash the rich thing.</p>
<p>Advance for better of for worse? Really? Every step forward solves another problem. You&#8217;d rather Ferdinand and Isabella hadn&#8217;t funded Columbus? Or the US govt hadn&#8217;t funded Lewis and Clarke. &#8220;No thanks we&#8217;re quite happy living here on the east coast we&#8217;re not interested what is over the horizon to the east.&#8221;<br />
We will always want to see over the next horizon it is who we are.</p>
<p>Why must our species advance?<br />
You state that there is still poverty, pollution, inequality here on Earth and you are right, there is. But it is decreasing. Why? One word, knowledge. All are dropping at an exponential rate due to exponential increase in information technologies and their related fields.<br />
Should our advances be asymmetrical? And who gets to deicide?<br />
Go and visit the National Air and Space Museum (you know, part of the Smithsonian) and see the small children eyes open wide with wonder looking up at Apollo 11 and Spaceship One. Amongst them will be a few who are inspired, the next generation&#8217;s Goddard, von Braun or Rutan.<br />
If it is now Smithsonian&#8217;s doctrine to no longer inspire our youth with aerospace engineering then it might be a good idea to close the National Air and Space Museum first &#8211; for good.</p>
<p>The Chinese don&#8217;t care what you think or do and so they will go anyway.<br />
If you want your country to be side-lined like mine then this sort of thinking is the way forward. Fortunately you are in the minority.<br />
Being British I have come to accept this sort of anti-patriotic, leftist-liberal claptrap from European institutions safe in the knowledge that the US is still a forward thinking country.  Was I wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/adventure/2012/12/do-we-really-need-to-take-vacations-to-space/#comment-1230</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Read Tony K&#039;s comment after writing this...well put, sir!)

Did the first humans need to leave Sub-Saharan Africa?  They hadn&#039;t solved all their problems, and were making a mess of the area they lived in.

Did the Norse/European explorers need to try and find expanded territory or a trade route to the Indies?  They hadn&#039;t solved all their problems, and were making a mess of the area they lived in.

Do we need to take vacations and eventually move into space? We haven&#039;t solved all our problems, and we&#039;re making a mess of the area we live in.

To me, all three are the same question, and while there is debate about the &#039;goodness&#039; of the actions taken, I&#039;m glad the first two choices were made the way they were.  Assuming expansion happens, it will be messy, because we&#039;re human, but in general we&#039;ve learned from the past and will do it better than in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Read Tony K&#8217;s comment after writing this&#8230;well put, sir!)</p>
<p>Did the first humans need to leave Sub-Saharan Africa?  They hadn&#8217;t solved all their problems, and were making a mess of the area they lived in.</p>
<p>Did the Norse/European explorers need to try and find expanded territory or a trade route to the Indies?  They hadn&#8217;t solved all their problems, and were making a mess of the area they lived in.</p>
<p>Do we need to take vacations and eventually move into space? We haven&#8217;t solved all our problems, and we&#8217;re making a mess of the area we live in.</p>
<p>To me, all three are the same question, and while there is debate about the &#8216;goodness&#8217; of the actions taken, I&#8217;m glad the first two choices were made the way they were.  Assuming expansion happens, it will be messy, because we&#8217;re human, but in general we&#8217;ve learned from the past and will do it better than in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/adventure/2012/12/do-we-really-need-to-take-vacations-to-space/#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 22:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems we are discussing two forms of space travel here: space tourism and human-relocation. Going on a short little flight into space would be cool, without a doubt, and a photo of earth through the cockpit window would generate countless facebook likes.

However, I would never want to be part of a human experiment in which I and many others are placed on a cold and sterile generation ship and set on a blind course into space in the hopes that our great great great great great great great great great great grandchildren MIGHT set foot on a new and inhabitable planet, at which point they would go to war with and slaughter - if they were to succeed - the natives of that planet. Genocide has always coincided with human expansion across oceans and continents, so why not space?

Space travel for the masses is certainly in our future, and earth&#039;s problems will remain with or without it. However, we can and should make conscious, ethical decisions regarding our other-worldly destinations. 

To paraphrase Jeff Goldblum&#039;s Ian Malcolm, just that we can doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that we should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems we are discussing two forms of space travel here: space tourism and human-relocation. Going on a short little flight into space would be cool, without a doubt, and a photo of earth through the cockpit window would generate countless facebook likes.</p>
<p>However, I would never want to be part of a human experiment in which I and many others are placed on a cold and sterile generation ship and set on a blind course into space in the hopes that our great great great great great great great great great great grandchildren MIGHT set foot on a new and inhabitable planet, at which point they would go to war with and slaughter &#8211; if they were to succeed &#8211; the natives of that planet. Genocide has always coincided with human expansion across oceans and continents, so why not space?</p>
<p>Space travel for the masses is certainly in our future, and earth&#8217;s problems will remain with or without it. However, we can and should make conscious, ethical decisions regarding our other-worldly destinations. </p>
<p>To paraphrase Jeff Goldblum&#8217;s Ian Malcolm, just that we can doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that we should.</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair Bland</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/adventure/2012/12/do-we-really-need-to-take-vacations-to-space/#comment-1219</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony K,
Thanks for the thoughtful comment. I agree with a lot of what you say, and yes--we already do live in a world of luxuries and a world well advanced from previous times. Why stop advancing now, or ever? Forward movement is the nature of humans. 

I&#039;ll be on an airplane myself, soon, which will put me halfway to space--but I always will want to come back to Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony K,<br />
Thanks for the thoughtful comment. I agree with a lot of what you say, and yes&#8211;we already do live in a world of luxuries and a world well advanced from previous times. Why stop advancing now, or ever? Forward movement is the nature of humans. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be on an airplane myself, soon, which will put me halfway to space&#8211;but I always will want to come back to Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: tony k</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/adventure/2012/12/do-we-really-need-to-take-vacations-to-space/#comment-1218</link>
		<dc:creator>tony k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, with respect to the author, I emphatically disagree. I will not lie, I feel very strongly about this subject.  It saddens and angers me greatly when  I  hear people trashing the hard work and sweat of some of the brightest engineers and  scientists of the world   and calling the efforts of visionaries a &quot;waste of money&quot;. How could one not be moved by the image of the footprint on the moons surface or  the idea  of people walking the  surface of Mars, millions of miles away? A future where we have failed to expand into space is utterly  depressing, in part because it would represent our failure to imagine and achieve. 

I also resent the often  invoked  &quot;but people are starving in Africa &quot; excuse . Do you realize that when the Wright  Brothers  took   flight the world of  1903   was filled   with far more injustice and suffering  than   today?  Even now, many people cannot afford to ride on a plane, yet would one argue that weshould have halted development of flying machines until we &quot;sorted out our problems here on the ground?&quot; If we try to solve all suffering and starvation in the world before attempting space travel, the sun will blow up
first. There will always be problems in the world. We can always do our best to make it better but honestly, how will taking money away from science and technology help exactly? Will cancelling space tourism flights result in boxes of hamburgers landing at the feet of the wretched? Why does space travel have to equate to abandoning earth? Did Europe become abandoned after the colonization of the New World? Quite frankly, I&#039;d be more concerned with the money we spend on nuclear bombs and oil wars. 

One final thing regarding the &quot;need&quot; factor: We need the furniture in our homes? Do we need the computers we are writing on the page with? (That would be pure luxury in many parts of the world) Do we need cars any more advanced than a Model T? Do we need to treat ourselves to expensive food and vacations? I staunchly believe in protecting the environment, and I believe in helping those who are disadvantaged, but lookkng at space exploration to pay the bill is barking up the wrong tree. Placing arbitrary restrictions on our technological progress is utterly horrifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, with respect to the author, I emphatically disagree. I will not lie, I feel very strongly about this subject.  It saddens and angers me greatly when  I  hear people trashing the hard work and sweat of some of the brightest engineers and  scientists of the world   and calling the efforts of visionaries a &#8220;waste of money&#8221;. How could one not be moved by the image of the footprint on the moons surface or  the idea  of people walking the  surface of Mars, millions of miles away? A future where we have failed to expand into space is utterly  depressing, in part because it would represent our failure to imagine and achieve. </p>
<p>I also resent the often  invoked  &#8220;but people are starving in Africa &#8221; excuse . Do you realize that when the Wright  Brothers  took   flight the world of  1903   was filled   with far more injustice and suffering  than   today?  Even now, many people cannot afford to ride on a plane, yet would one argue that weshould have halted development of flying machines until we &#8220;sorted out our problems here on the ground?&#8221; If we try to solve all suffering and starvation in the world before attempting space travel, the sun will blow up<br />
first. There will always be problems in the world. We can always do our best to make it better but honestly, how will taking money away from science and technology help exactly? Will cancelling space tourism flights result in boxes of hamburgers landing at the feet of the wretched? Why does space travel have to equate to abandoning earth? Did Europe become abandoned after the colonization of the New World? Quite frankly, I&#8217;d be more concerned with the money we spend on nuclear bombs and oil wars. </p>
<p>One final thing regarding the &#8220;need&#8221; factor: We need the furniture in our homes? Do we need the computers we are writing on the page with? (That would be pure luxury in many parts of the world) Do we need cars any more advanced than a Model T? Do we need to treat ourselves to expensive food and vacations? I staunchly believe in protecting the environment, and I believe in helping those who are disadvantaged, but lookkng at space exploration to pay the bill is barking up the wrong tree. Placing arbitrary restrictions on our technological progress is utterly horrifying.</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair Bland</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/adventure/2012/12/do-we-really-need-to-take-vacations-to-space/#comment-1216</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair Bland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 14:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any exodus of Earth is unlikely to be a fair and just process, which is why those privileged enough to leave must not write off Earth as doomed. Billions of humans and other creatures will be left to keep living here--or am I wrong? Will the poor of the Earth who may want to leave this supposedly doomed planet be offered the first seats? Now that would mark human progress!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any exodus of Earth is unlikely to be a fair and just process, which is why those privileged enough to leave must not write off Earth as doomed. Billions of humans and other creatures will be left to keep living here&#8211;or am I wrong? Will the poor of the Earth who may want to leave this supposedly doomed planet be offered the first seats? Now that would mark human progress!</p>
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		<title>By: FomotoCho</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/adventure/2012/12/do-we-really-need-to-take-vacations-to-space/#comment-1212</link>
		<dc:creator>FomotoCho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As far as we yet know, there is not another planet like ours, anywhere.&quot; and if you have your way we will never know if there is another earth like planet out there.

Amazing how much fear is out there. Careful we might sail of the edge of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As far as we yet know, there is not another planet like ours, anywhere.&#8221; and if you have your way we will never know if there is another earth like planet out there.</p>
<p>Amazing how much fear is out there. Careful we might sail of the edge of the world.</p>
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