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	<title>Comments on: Tyrannosaurus Rex: Armed and Dangerous</title>
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	<description>Where Paleontology Meets Pop Culture</description>
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		<title>By: Blog Carnival, Edition #4: Texas Troubles, Big Dinosaurs, and a Danny McBride Interview &#124; Dinosaur Tracking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog Carnival, Edition #4: Texas Troubles, Big Dinosaurs, and a Danny McBride Interview &#124; Dinosaur Tracking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Small: As we’ve noted before, the mighty T. rex had arms that were so small that some early theorists even suggested they were [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Small: As we’ve noted before, the mighty T. rex had arms that were so small that some early theorists even suggested they were [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dinosaur Tracking</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/dinosaur/2008/10/08/armed-and-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Dinosaur Tracking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that&#8217;s all about candy, petty vandalism and dress-up. Ever want to tyrannize the world like a T. rex? Lumber around gulping party snacks like an Apatosaurus? Stain the carpet like a coprolite? This is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that&#8217;s all about candy, petty vandalism and dress-up. Ever want to tyrannize the world like a T. rex? Lumber around gulping party snacks like an Apatosaurus? Stain the carpet like a coprolite? This is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Linda N ewman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda N ewman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birds, which are descended from dinosaurs, turned their arms into wings. Wing muscles are powerful, but not well adapted to grasping. T-reges probably were too large to fly, but just like birds, they didn&#039;t need more than two feet. The small arms were probably useful for clutching in certain situations; every extremity in every animal does not have to be useful in combat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birds, which are descended from dinosaurs, turned their arms into wings. Wing muscles are powerful, but not well adapted to grasping. T-reges probably were too large to fly, but just like birds, they didn&#8217;t need more than two feet. The small arms were probably useful for clutching in certain situations; every extremity in every animal does not have to be useful in combat.</p>
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		<title>By: Berney Lincoln</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berney Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it possible that T Rex&#039;s arms are smaller due to evolution?  If they weren&#039;t used or if they were a problem than over the thousands of years that they roamed nature may have shortened the arms similar to what humans experience in their little toes?  Supposedly in a few more hundred years we won&#039;t have them at all.  If it is possible that the arms were getting smaller and we have only uneartherd the most recent of the T Rex&#039;s then it might be possible that at one time the arms were longer but not used enough to maintain their length.
With that said, I am also realizing that I can&#039;t think of one carnivorous dino that did have proportionally large arms.  Some of the smaller ones did but even they weren&#039;t truly proportionate to the body size.  Nothing like a human or ape arm.  The reptiles of today all seem to have similar arm and legs.  by that I mean they front and back legs are about the same size.  We don&#039;t have many reptiles that stand on two legs and have short arms.  We do have a few lizards that run on rear legs but the front ones are the same size.  Kind of strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it possible that T Rex&#8217;s arms are smaller due to evolution?  If they weren&#8217;t used or if they were a problem than over the thousands of years that they roamed nature may have shortened the arms similar to what humans experience in their little toes?  Supposedly in a few more hundred years we won&#8217;t have them at all.  If it is possible that the arms were getting smaller and we have only uneartherd the most recent of the T Rex&#8217;s then it might be possible that at one time the arms were longer but not used enough to maintain their length.<br />
With that said, I am also realizing that I can&#8217;t think of one carnivorous dino that did have proportionally large arms.  Some of the smaller ones did but even they weren&#8217;t truly proportionate to the body size.  Nothing like a human or ape arm.  The reptiles of today all seem to have similar arm and legs.  by that I mean they front and back legs are about the same size.  We don&#8217;t have many reptiles that stand on two legs and have short arms.  We do have a few lizards that run on rear legs but the front ones are the same size.  Kind of strange.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Kederich</title>
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		<dc:creator>K. Kederich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the small limb size solves itself exactly because of weight issues. Imagine, with arms ANYTHING LESS than as massive as the T-Rex legs, trying to wrestle with prey of a smiliar size. Any arms much smaller than Rex&#039;s legs would literally be torn off! And, massive arms simply weigh too much, and require vast skeletal structures to support. So, for safety, Rex&#039;s arms dwindled into little things that were not in the way and could not be hazards to his own health. I suspect they were proportionately larger in the very young, and little Rex&#039;s would have lower mass and be less likely to tear themselves limb-from-body. As for adults,, nature always finds something to do with limbs. Conducting orchestras, for example. Or, blogging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the small limb size solves itself exactly because of weight issues. Imagine, with arms ANYTHING LESS than as massive as the T-Rex legs, trying to wrestle with prey of a smiliar size. Any arms much smaller than Rex&#8217;s legs would literally be torn off! And, massive arms simply weigh too much, and require vast skeletal structures to support. So, for safety, Rex&#8217;s arms dwindled into little things that were not in the way and could not be hazards to his own health. I suspect they were proportionately larger in the very young, and little Rex&#8217;s would have lower mass and be less likely to tear themselves limb-from-body. As for adults,, nature always finds something to do with limbs. Conducting orchestras, for example. Or, blogging.</p>
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		<title>By: wm schanz</title>
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		<dc:creator>wm schanz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The armes were obiviously used to move chess pieces! The tail and hide legs were much to clumsy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The armes were obiviously used to move chess pieces! The tail and hide legs were much to clumsy.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Craven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Craven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main problem in dealing with this question is that barring some really spectacular and unlikely fossil evidence all we&#039;ve got is speculation.

One thing we do know is that Tyrannosaurus used its arms vigorously -- there are a number of injuries recorded that demonstrate this pretty clearly.

Since all we&#039;ve got is speculation, here&#039; my two bits. Arms three times as strong as mine aren&#039;t going to be much use in dealing with animals who&#039;s weight is measured in tons. This goes for both breeding and predation. I&#039;m not saying the arms never came into play in these scenarios -- I just doubt they were of much use.

My guess (and since it&#039;s not testable don&#039;t think it&#039;s anything more than a guess) is that they may have been used for nest building. Holding down a struggling Edmontosaurus seems unlikely. Gathering and carrying branches makes more sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main problem in dealing with this question is that barring some really spectacular and unlikely fossil evidence all we&#8217;ve got is speculation.</p>
<p>One thing we do know is that Tyrannosaurus used its arms vigorously &#8212; there are a number of injuries recorded that demonstrate this pretty clearly.</p>
<p>Since all we&#8217;ve got is speculation, here&#8217; my two bits. Arms three times as strong as mine aren&#8217;t going to be much use in dealing with animals who&#8217;s weight is measured in tons. This goes for both breeding and predation. I&#8217;m not saying the arms never came into play in these scenarios &#8212; I just doubt they were of much use.</p>
<p>My guess (and since it&#8217;s not testable don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s anything more than a guess) is that they may have been used for nest building. Holding down a struggling Edmontosaurus seems unlikely. Gathering and carrying branches makes more sense to me.</p>
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