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July 21, 2011

When Three British Boys Traveled to Medieval England (Or Did They?)

Kersey in 1957. Although Jack Merriott's watercolor presents an idealized image of the village – it was commissioned for use in a railway advertising campaign – it does give an idea of just how 'old' Kersey must have looked to strangers in the year it became central to a 'timeslip' case.

Looking back, the really strange thing was the silence. The way the church bells stopped ringing as the little group of naval cadets neared the village. The way even the ducks stood quiet and motionless by the shallow stream that ran across the road where the main street began.

And, when the boys thought about it afterward, they recalled that even the autumn birdsong faded as they neared the first houses. The wind had dropped to nothing, too.

Not a leaf stirred on the trees they passed. And the trees appeared to cast no shadows.

The street itself was quite deserted—not so odd, perhaps, for a Sunday morning in 1957, especially in the rural heart of England. But even the remotest British hamlets displayed some signs of modernity by then—cars parked by the roadside, phone wires strung along the roads, aerials on roofs—and there was nothing of that sort in this village. In fact, the houses on the high street all looked ancient; they were ragged, hand-built, timber-framed: “almost medieval in appearance,” one boy thought.

The three, all Royal Navy cadets, walked up to the nearest building and pressed their faces to its grimy windows. They could see that it was some sort of butcher’s shop, but what they glimpsed in the interior was even more unsettling. As one of them recalled for the author Andrew MacKenzie:

There were no tables or counters, just two or three whole oxen carcasses which had been skinned and in places were quite green with age. There was a green-painted door and windows with smallish glass panes, one at the front and one at the side, rather dirty-looking. I remember that as we three looked through that window in disbelief at the green and mouldy green carcasses… the general feeling certainly was one of disbelief and unreality… Who would believe that in 1957 that the health authorities would allow such conditions?

They peered into another house. It, too, had greenish, smeary windows. And it, too, appeared uninhabited. The walls had been crudely whitewashed, but the rooms were empty; the boys could see no possessions, no furniture, and they thought the rooms themselves appeared to be “not of modern day quality.” Spooked now, the cadets turned back and hurried out of the strange village. The track climbed a small hill, and they did not turn back until they had reached the top. Then, one of the three remembered, “suddenly we could hear the bells once more and saw the smoke rising from chimneys, [though] none of the chimneys was smoking when we were in the village… We ran for a few hundred yards as if to shake off the weird feeling.” [MacKenzie pp.6-9]

What happened to those three boys on that October morning more than 50 years ago remains something of a mystery. They were taking part in a map-reading exercise that ought to have been straightforward; the idea was to navigate their way across four or five miles of countryside to a designated point, then return to base and report what they had seen—which, if all went to plan, should have been the picturesque Suffolk village of Kersey. But the more they thought about it, the more the cadets wondered whether something very strange had occurred to them. Years later, William Laing, the Scottish boy who led the group, put it this way: “It was a ghost village, so to speak. It was almost as if we had walked back in time… I experienced an overwhelming feeling of sadness and depression in Kersey, but also a feeling of unfriendliness and unseen watchers which sent shivers up one’s back… I wondered if we’d knocked at a door to ask a question who might have answered it? It doesn’t bear thinking about.”

Laing, who came from Perthshire in the Highlands of Scotland, was a stranger to this part of the east of England. So were his friends Michael Crowley (from Worcestershire) and Ray Baker (a Cockney). That was the point. All three were 15 years old, and had only recently signed up to join the Royal Navy. That made it easy for the petty officers in charge of their training to confirm that they had reached the village they were supposed to find just by checking their descriptions. As it was, their superiors, Laing recalled, were “rather skeptical” when they told them of their odd experience, but they “laughed it off and agreed that we’d seen Kersey all right.” [MacKenzie pp.8-9]

There the matter rested until the late 1980s, when Laing and Crowley, by then both living in Australia, talked by phone and chewed over the incident. Laing had always been troubled by it; Crowley, it emerged, did not remember it in as much detail as his old friend, but he did think that something strange had happened, and he recalled the silence, the lack of aerials and streetlights, and the bizarre butcher’s shop. That was enough to prompt Laing to write to the author of a book he’d read—Andrew MacKenzie, a leading member of the Society for Psychical Research.

MacKenzie was intrigued by Bill Laing’s letter and recognized that it might describe a case of retrocognition—the SPR term for what we would call a “timeslip” case. Looking at the details, he thought it was possible that the three cadets had seen Kersey not as it was in 1957, but as it had been centuries earlier. A long correspondence (he and Laing exchanged letters for two years) and a foray into local libraries with the help of a historian from Kersey helped to confirm that view. In 1990, Laing flew to England, and the two men walked through the village, reliving the experience.

What makes this case particularly interesting is that retrocognition is probably the rarest reported of psychical phenomena. There have only ever been a handful cases, of which by far the most famous remains the “Versailles incident“ of 1901. On that occasion, two highly educated British women—the principal and vice principal of St Hugh’s College, Oxford—were wandering through the grounds of the Palace of Versailles, outside Paris, when they had a series of experiences that later convinced them they had seen the gardens as they were before the French Revolution. Detailed research suggested to them that one of the figures they encountered might have been Marie Antoinette, Louis XVI’s wife, the queen of France.

MacKenzie’s research into the Kersey incident led him to very similar conclusions, and he featured it as the lead case in a book he published on retrocognition, Adventures in Time (1997). Several factors led him to conclude that the cadets’ experience had been genuine: the obvious sincerity of Laing and his friend Crowley (Ray Baker was also traced, but turned out to remember nothing of the experience); the detail of their recollections; and a few persuasive discoveries. Among the details that impressed MacKenzie most was the realization that the house that Laing had identified as a butcher’s shop—which was a private residence in 1957, and remained one when Kersey was revisited in 1990—dated to about 1350 and actually had been a butcher’s shop at least as early as 1790. The author was also struck by the suggestive fact that the season seemed to change as the cadets entered the village (inside Kersey, Laing recalled, “it was verdant… and the trees were that magnificent green colour one finds in spring or early summer”).  Then there was the puzzle of the village church; Laing noted that the party had not seen it after they descended into the village and the pall of silence fell. Indeed, he explicitly recalled that “there was no sign of a church. I would certainly have seen it as I had a field of observation of 360 degrees,” and Crowley likewise recalled “no church or pub.” [MacKenzie pp. 4, 6, 11]   All of which seemed hard to explain, since St. Mary’s, Kersey, dates to the 14th century and is the principal landmark in the district, readily visible to anybody passing along the main street. MacKenzie, basing his case on the history of St Mary’s, interpreted this anomaly as evidence to help pinpoint the likely date on which Laing and his companions “visited” the village. Noting that construction of the tower was halted by the ravages of the Black Death (1348-9)—which killed half of the population of Kersey–MacKenzie concluded that the cadets might have seen it as it had been in the aftermath of the plague, when the shell of the half-constructed church would have been hidden by trees. And, since Laing and Crowley also recalled that the village buildings had glazed windows (a rarity in the Middle Ages), MacKenzie further suggested that the most likely date was c.1420, when the church remained unfinished, but the village was growing rich from the wool trade. [Kerridge p.5]

It’s a great story. But, looked at through the eyes of an historian, is there some other explanation for the events of 1957?

The Bell Inn, Kersey, dates from 1378 and is only one of a number of medieval buildings in the village. Photo: Robert Edwards, made available under CCL

Well, the first thing to say about Kersey is that it is exactly the sort of place that might have confused a group of strangers entering it for the first time. The village is certainly ancient—it was first mentioned in an Anglo-Saxon will of c.900—and it still boasts a large number of buildings dating from the medieval period, so many that it has become a favorite location for film-makers and is noted, by no less an authority than Nikolaus Pevsner, as “the most picturesque village in South Suffolk.” [Pevsner p.290]  Among its attractions are the 14th-century Bell Inn and several thatched, half-timbered buildings. It’s not hard to imagine that these striking remnants might linger in the memory longer than the more humdrum architecture alongside them, producing, over time, the notion that a witness had visited a place considerably older than expected.

As it turns out, there’s also a good explanation for the cadets’ failure to notice wires and aerials in Kersey. The village was not hooked up to the mains until the early 1950s, and then only after protests from the Suffolk Preservation Society, which argued strenuously for the preservation of its skyline. [Electrical Review p.414; Electrical Times p.300]  The revealing outcome of these protests may be found in the British parliamentary papers of the period, which reported that “negotiations have resulted in the overhead line being carried behind the houses on either side of the street and a cable being laid underground at the only point where the street has to be crossed.” [Command Papers p.96]

What, though, of the other details? When I first read MacKenzie’s account, I was worried by the mention of windows, since glass was expensive, and thus rare, in the 14th and 15th centuries. [Cantor p.139]  And while it’s possible that Kersey’s wealth did make it an exception in this period, one wonders why—if it was wealthy—its houses would have been devoid of furniture. There are other problems with the dating, too, not least the discrepancy between the boys’ description (of a settlement abandoned, as it might have been in 1349) and MacKenzie’s “wealthy village” of 1420.

Yet what bothers me most about the cadets’ account is something that MacKenzie never thought about, and that’s the question of whether a medieval village would have had a butcher’s shop. Such places did exist, but they were found almost exclusively in towns; meat was expensive, which meant that most peasants’ diets remained largely vegetarian, and when animals were slaughtered in a village—for a saints’ day feast, perhaps—they were hard to keep fresh and would have been consumed immediately. [Mortimer pp.10-13, 93-4]  Yes, meat consumption did rise steadily in the late 14th century (from “a tenth or less of the food budget to a quarter or a third of the total”), but the evidence we have suggests that beef was only rarely eaten; in the village of Sedgeford, in nearby Norfolk, only three cattle were slaughtered a year around this time. [Dyer pp.85-6]  Sedgeford was only about half the size of Kersey, admittedly, but even so it stretches credulity to imagine a shop with two or three whole ox carcasses in stock as early as 1420, especially when it’s remembered that Kersey had its own weekly market, where fresh meat would have been available, and which would have provided fierce competition.

What this suggests, I think, is that the cadets’ experience is better explained some other way. Some key elements of the incident—the silence, the lack of life—are highly suggestive of derealization, a psychological condition in which the real world seems unreal (as was the Versailles case; indeed, MacKenzie notes that “when I quoted to Mr. Laing Miss Moberly’s description of the trees in the park at Versailles… being ‘flat and lifeless, like a wood worked in tapestry,’ he replied that this was ‘spot on.’”) [Evans pp.34-98; MacKenzie p.7]  And the lack of agreement between witnesses (remember that Roy Baker recalled nothing unusual about Kersey) is also striking.

Of course, none of this solves the mystery of why two cadets, Laing and Crowley, were in such close agreement. But here it’s worth pointing out (as I have before) that there is a reason why “timeslip” cases usually have multiple witnesses: the passage of time, and a process of mutual reinforcement as the case is reviewed again and again, accentuate the odd and smooth out differences—just as a study of reports of the Indian Rope Trick published in Nature demonstrated that the strangest accounts were those said to have been witnessed longest ago. [Wiseman & Lamont]

No, I’d love to believe it—really I would. But without better evidence, I can’t quite bring myself to concede that these three youths really did travel back in time.

Sources

Leonard Cantor. The Changing English Countryside, 1400-1700. London: RKP, 1987; Christopher Dyer. Everyday Life in Medieval England. London: Vantage, 2000; Command papers. Great Britain: Parliament: House of Commons. London: HMSO, 1951. Vol. XX; Electrical Review vol. 145 (1949); Electrical Times vol.116 (1949); Hilary Evans. Alternate States of Consciousness. Wellingborough: Aquarian Press, 1989; Eric Kerridge. Textile Manufactures in Early Modern England. Manchester: MUP, 1988; Andrew Mackenzie. Adventures in Time. London: Athlone Press, 1997; Ian Mortimer. The Time Traveller’s Guide to Medieval England. London: Vintage, 2009; Nikolaus Pevsner. The Buildings of England: Suffolk. London: Penguin, 1961; Richard Wiseman and Peter Lamont. ‘Unravelling the rope trick.’ Nature 383 (1996) pp.212-13.





21 Comments »

  1. [...] A reinvestigation of a little-known ´´timeslip´´ case kicks off the new Smithsonian blog Plas Imperfect – and you can read the full article here. [...]

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  2. The scientist Ivan T. Sanderson, in his book “More ‘Things’” gave a very interesting–and surprisingly convincing–story of being on a country road in Haiti and suddenly finding himself “back” in medieval Paris. If you haven’t read it, try to check it out. I’d be curious to know what you make of it.

    Congratulations on your new home, by the way!

    Comment by Undine — July 24, 2011 @ 12:45 pm


  3. What an excellent review of a fascinating account. Wherever I see Mike Dash as a byline, it’s always the promise of a detailed and interesting article. Whereas in ‘The Devil’s Hoofprints,’ it became abundantly clear that there had been a fuss over very little, in this case, I’m less certain.

    This isn’t to say that one explanation, or other, is accurate, rather than I’ll suspend judgement and scratch my chin a little…

    The ageing carcasses seen through the window wouldn’t be there in the 1950s. Likewise, glazed windows and butcher shops wouldn’t be there in the 14th Century. Without the vivid account of these carcasses, the simple explanation of ‘Townies’ being overwhelmed by the basics of rural England would be an obvious explanation.

    It’s an anomalous puzzler. Thanks for posting it.

    Comment by Kandinsky — July 26, 2011 @ 5:40 pm


  4. Interesting. Especially since I had an odd experience a few years ago that I’ve come to think might be “timeslip” related. If you are interested in hearing the details, let me know.

    Comment by Harpo — July 27, 2011 @ 2:47 am


  5. Intriguing! Rather than making the assumption that the time-slip (if that’s what it is) has to be to one particular point in time (with the problem of accounting for the historical anomalies), is it possible that they entered some kind of ‘nexus’ ..a composite or overlay of different, relatively close, time frames? That’s the first thought that occured to me but – could also just be clutching at straws!

    Comment by Anne — July 27, 2011 @ 11:27 am


  6. Interesting piece. I’ve been reading more and more about these so-called “time slips.” I do have a question about the “derealization” explanation. Can it be experience by a group or is it just confined to one person? Is it possible three people can imagine the same things at the same exact time?

    It also is odd that the third guy remembers nothing weird, but the other two said all three saw the same things. And, if the article is correct, and all three related their story at the time, perhaps those they told it to could be found and see if they remember the incident and if all three agreed on what happened.

    Comment by Bernie Mooney — July 27, 2011 @ 7:33 pm


  7. There is another interesting possibility that I’ve come across. In 1957, the BBC was filming a documentary entitled “The England of Elizabeth”. It ran for a little less than a half hour, but the opening scenes were of Tudor houses and streets. I’d think it worth the time to try and see where those scenes were filmed because it might well have been Kersey, and that would explain a great deal about the butcher shop, the sides of beef being props, and also the “greasy windows”, as glass is routinely dulled on sets so as not to cast light reflections and cause film artifacts & lens flares.

    I may be wrong, but if it was dressed as a set, and the shooting done, or not yet started, our intrepid cadets might have simply walked onto a dressed set while the dressers and props folks were away.

    respects,

    Comment by AW1 Tim — July 27, 2011 @ 10:09 pm


  8. That Smithsonian should stop anywhere short of dismissing “retrocognition” and “timeslips” as utter hogwash is disappointing.

    Comment by Robert Gerard Hunt — July 28, 2011 @ 1:00 am


  9. @ Bernie Mooney. I should probably have gone into more detail about derealization than I did. It is a solitary state, and hence cannot in itself account for the whole of the reported experience. I do tend to think that some sort of process of mutual reinforcement must have gone on between Bill Laing and Mike Crowley long before Andrew MacKenzie came on the scene, but what’s interesting here is that while Laing was clearly the core percipient, through whose lens the whole experience has been refracted, it was apparently Crowley who first recalled the experience in Kersey and mentioned it to Laing – at least, that’s what MacKenzie reports.

    @ AW1 Tim. An interesting suggestion, thank you, though a quick dig for more details reveals few precise details of the locations chosen for this short. I’m intrigued to see it was produced by British Transport Films, though, which certainly does seem to tie in with Kersey and its promotion as a tourist attraction.

    It would be possible to check out the theory in more detail, as The England of Elizabeth is now available as part of a DVD compilation. If anyone has access to it, let us know.

    Comment by Mike Dash — July 29, 2011 @ 2:38 pm


  10. @Mike. Thanks for the response. One other thing came to mind while reading the article that I don’t understand. How do you forget such a weird experience?

    Comment by Bernie Mooney — July 29, 2011 @ 3:13 pm


  11. @ Bernie Mooney. That’s a good question, and there are two possible answers to it. MacKenzie wrote that he thought none of the three boys had enough experience of the Suffolk countryside to realize at the time how strange their experience really was. But that seems to conflict with Laing’s recollection that the three boys “experienced an overwhelming feeling of sadness and depression” in Kersey, and pretty much fled the village. So the obvious alternate explanation is that the experience became weirder over time. That would tie in with the fact that Ray Baker remembered nothing strange about the visit–especially as Baker, unlike Laing and Crowley, is not known to have thought over or discussed the day between 1957 and the later 1980s, when he was contacted by Andrew MacKenzie.

    Comment by Mike Dash — July 29, 2011 @ 4:40 pm


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  13. Added to my RSS feed.

    I always enjoyed your writing on forteana.org, and I’m glad to see you on Smithsonian now. I hope this helps you to reach some new audiences, particularly those who don’t (or won’t) understand what exactly it is that you do.

    Comment by HP — July 29, 2011 @ 6:34 pm


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  15. A few thoughts.

    The reason Ray Baker did not remember anything could be explained by fear of ridicule, either self-imposed or from the external world. Many people deny their own experiences from fear that they are going crazy or of other people thinking they are crazy.

    The house may have had no furniture because it was unoccupied at the time.

    “… an overwhelming feeling of sadness and depression in Kersey…” suggests some great misfortune had occured. Conjecture – was there to be some local festivity that was instead turned into a tragedy. Perhaps a wedding that went terriby wrong for some reason. This could explain the rotting oxen and the unoccupied house. This could, also, be why the boys were drawn to those two buildings (by the unseen watchers?).

    A search through local records of the time (if they exist)may turn-up some plausible explaination. Generalizations of history do not take into consideration the individual history of people. “Common” practice does not nullify the “uncommon”.

    Comment by RB — August 3, 2011 @ 7:35 am


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  17. Am I the only one who read this and am not fascinated by derealization? That seems much more interesting than the far-fetched time slips to me. I am intrigued as to how all the boys experienced it. From my quick internet search of derealization, I learn that it usually happens in traumatic situations, but not always. I am thinking back through my life as to times I have experienced something that I now have a name for, There have certainly been instances when it was due to something traumatic. But also there are times when something that in someways seemed very familiar looked unfamiliar (like visiting a place I had only ever been to in the morning in the late afternoon, and the light being really different and suddenly seeming unreal). And there was a feeling of profound sadness in those times.

    Comment by Mila — August 6, 2011 @ 2:24 pm


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  19. This is why I’ve carried a Swiss Army knife since childhood… I don’t want to pass through a time-door back to dinosaur times without at least carrying a pocket knife!

    Time can do a lot to muddy the pond of youth… maybe they were a bit lost (it was a map reading exercise, after all) and went up a deserted alley past the abbatoir?

    Interesting nevertheless – JG Ballard wrote about time slips and refractions in his Cape Canaveral stories – perhaps the boys were just perceiving time a little differently than everybody else and couldn’t see anybody?

    Comment by Andy — September 12, 2011 @ 6:31 pm


  20. Surely retrocognition must involve the numbing of olfactory senses as well. The smell of the three rotting oxen carcasses would be overwhelming in any time period!

    Comment by Benji — January 1, 2012 @ 1:00 am


  21. I had a similar experience when I was about 12. There was a very old cemetary near where I lived with very old headstones. I used to go there and read the headstones. One day I was bike riding with a friend and we went to the cemetary and followed the road behind it, we came to an old falling down barn. It seemed as though we were looking through cellophane and the barn was not old, there was a farm house, with a women standing on the pourch, a man standing on the walk to the house and children running in and out of the barn. The woman was staring at us and the man turned around as though he could see us and started walking towards us. We took off, that night the barn burnt down. We NEVER went there again.

    Comment by Donna Garver — April 23, 2012 @ 3:06 pm


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