Comments on: The Mystery of the Five Wounds http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/11/the-mystery-of-the-five-wounds-ready-to-go/ History with all the interesting bits left in Fri, 17 May 2013 17:51:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4 By: Buddy http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/11/the-mystery-of-the-five-wounds-ready-to-go/#comment-1632 Buddy Sun, 08 Apr 2012 16:33:24 +0000 http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/?p=3502#comment-1632 Archaeological evidence proves that Romans nailed the condemned in the vicinity of the ankles or Achilles heel, not the tops of the feet. When this bit of trivia becomes common knowledge, I bet future stigmatics will have holes in their ankles, too. Archaeological evidence proves that Romans nailed the condemned in the vicinity of the ankles or Achilles heel, not the tops of the feet. When this bit of trivia becomes common knowledge, I bet future stigmatics will have holes in their ankles, too.

]]> By: Janai http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/11/the-mystery-of-the-five-wounds-ready-to-go/#comment-1362 Janai Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:21:10 +0000 http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/?p=3502#comment-1362 Thank you for this informative article. I watched the movie Stigmata years ago and always wondered if those facts were true or simply embellished for Hollywood cinema. It's a fascinating subject simply because it's hard to separate fact from fiction. Thank you for this informative article. I watched the movie Stigmata years ago and always wondered if those facts were true or simply embellished for Hollywood cinema. It’s a fascinating subject simply because it’s hard to separate fact from fiction.

]]> By: Ross http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/11/the-mystery-of-the-five-wounds-ready-to-go/#comment-1342 Ross Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:36:10 +0000 http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/?p=3502#comment-1342 You are incorrect when you state "There seem to be no parallels in any of the major non-Christian religions." In fact, Muslim saints have manifested stigmata corresponding to Mohammed's battle wounds. (See page xviii of the 1991 Aquarian Press edition of D. Scott Rogo's MIRACLES: A SCIENTIFIC EXPLORATION OF WONDROUS PHENOMENA. The book was originally published in 1982; the 1991 edition contains additional material, including the information on stigmata in the Muslim context.) You are incorrect when you state “There seem to be no parallels in any of the major non-Christian religions.” In fact, Muslim saints have manifested stigmata corresponding to Mohammed’s battle wounds. (See page xviii of the 1991 Aquarian Press edition of D. Scott Rogo’s MIRACLES: A SCIENTIFIC EXPLORATION OF WONDROUS PHENOMENA. The book was originally published in 1982; the 1991 edition contains additional material, including the information on stigmata in the Muslim context.)

]]> By: Justin http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/11/the-mystery-of-the-five-wounds-ready-to-go/#comment-1238 Justin Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:09:11 +0000 http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/?p=3502#comment-1238 "According to the account embraced by believers, Pio's life was a continuous miracle, or a succession of miracles. He had the stigmata. He could fly. He beat the devil at wrestling. He could be in two places at the one time. It was noticeable, though, that he was always in one place and, at the same time, in another place far away. He was never at one side of a room and simultaneously at the other side of the same room. Cynics would mutter sotto voce that he never ran a three-legged race or played himself at tennis or impersonated the Everly Brothers." Irish journalist, Eamonn McCann http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/eamon-mccann/the-other-side-of-miraculous-monk-padre-pio-13488000.html#ixzz1fbPSjDhJ “According to the account embraced by believers, Pio’s life was a continuous miracle, or a succession of miracles. He had the stigmata. He could fly. He beat the devil at wrestling. He could be in two places at the one time. It was noticeable, though, that he was always in one place and, at the same time, in another place far away. He was never at one side of a room and simultaneously at the other side of the same room. Cynics would mutter sotto voce that he never ran a three-legged race or played himself at tennis or impersonated the Everly Brothers.”
Irish journalist, Eamonn McCann

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/eamon-mccann/the-other-side-of-miraculous-monk-padre-pio-13488000.html#ixzz1fbPSjDhJ

]]> By: JOHN DONAGHY http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/11/the-mystery-of-the-five-wounds-ready-to-go/#comment-1216 JOHN DONAGHY Mon, 28 Nov 2011 01:46:39 +0000 http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/?p=3502#comment-1216 The feast of Corpus Christi is related to the Eucharist, not directly to the wounds of Christ. The feast of Corpus Christi is related to the Eucharist, not directly to the wounds of Christ.

]]> By: Swift Loris http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/11/the-mystery-of-the-five-wounds-ready-to-go/#comment-1215 Swift Loris Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:46:05 +0000 http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/?p=3502#comment-1215 I'm wondering how stigmata resulting from "suggestion" might be distinguished from "genuine" stigmata--or more precisely, how the *mechanisms* might be distinguished. I'm not sure what the proposed mechanism is for real stigmata. Might it be said, for example, that the real wounds are "suggested" by the Holy Spirit to willing recipients? If so, how could we tell that this was not the case? I'm not a believer, but it seems to me the notion that the stigmatic creates the wounds by suggestion doesn't do any work in ruling out a supernatural cause; it's essentially a distinction without a difference. I’m wondering how stigmata resulting from “suggestion” might be distinguished from “genuine” stigmata–or more precisely, how the *mechanisms* might be distinguished. I’m not sure what the proposed mechanism is for real stigmata. Might it be said, for example, that the real wounds are “suggested” by the Holy Spirit to willing recipients? If so, how could we tell that this was not the case? I’m not a believer, but it seems to me the notion that the stigmatic creates the wounds by suggestion doesn’t do any work in ruling out a supernatural cause; it’s essentially a distinction without a difference.

]]> By: Bess http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/11/the-mystery-of-the-five-wounds-ready-to-go/#comment-1192 Bess Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:10:53 +0000 http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/?p=3502#comment-1192 Fascinating stuff as always, Mike! Fascinating stuff as always, Mike!

]]> By: mick davidson http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/11/the-mystery-of-the-five-wounds-ready-to-go/#comment-1191 mick davidson Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:07:44 +0000 http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/?p=3502#comment-1191 You mean, for 100s of years there ws no such thing as stigmata, then miraculously there's an avalanche of cases? Strangely, this parallels what happened with UFO sightings too. Obviously both must be true. Also, the holes in padre pio look suspiciously round and clean, not to mention very large. Given that all nails in jesus's time would have been hand made and fairly crude in their shape, the miracle is how well these have been formed. I don't suppose there are anyt close ups are there? Cheers. You mean, for 100s of years there ws no such thing as stigmata, then miraculously there’s an avalanche of cases? Strangely, this parallels what happened with UFO sightings too. Obviously both must be true.
Also, the holes in padre pio look suspiciously round and clean, not to mention very large. Given that all nails in jesus’s time would have been hand made and fairly crude in their shape, the miracle is how well these have been formed. I don’t suppose there are anyt close ups are there?
Cheers.

]]> By: Mike Dash http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/11/the-mystery-of-the-five-wounds-ready-to-go/#comment-1188 Mike Dash Sun, 20 Nov 2011 14:32:26 +0000 http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/?p=3502#comment-1188 We did search before posting - without luck. The experiment has not been repeated to my knowledge. We did search before posting – without luck. The experiment has not been repeated to my knowledge.

]]> By: Nillin http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/11/the-mystery-of-the-five-wounds-ready-to-go/#comment-1187 Nillin Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:52:25 +0000 http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/?p=3502#comment-1187 I'd love to actually see the video of Lo Bianco that you mention. Is it available online? Has the test been reproduced? I’d love to actually see the video of Lo Bianco that you mention. Is it available online? Has the test been reproduced?

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