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		<title>By: Brian Morr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2012/01/the-prime-minister-who-disappeared/#comment-2586</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Morr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had dealings with Titcombe in the UK around 1984 and would simply say that anything he said (or purported to have done) should be taken with the proverbial pinch of salt, microscopically examined and then most likely rejected!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had dealings with Titcombe in the UK around 1984 and would simply say that anything he said (or purported to have done) should be taken with the proverbial pinch of salt, microscopically examined and then most likely rejected!</p>
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		<title>By: D Gojak</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2012/01/the-prime-minister-who-disappeared/#comment-1390</link>
		<dc:creator>D Gojak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We Australians like to take pride that our prime ministers and big wigs are still able to get by without the cavalcades of security that are standard for some other heads of state.  Its really something nice to see my state Governor, for example, wandering around the local shops on a Saturday in search of a coffee, or the Prime Minister sitting in the front seat of the limo.  Of course, Harold Holt&#039;s fate reminds us that sometimes it helps to have attentive grown-ups nearby.

The conspiracy theory is immortalised in pop culture by the [not very good band] Harold Holt and the Chinese Submarines.

Cheviot Beach was under military protection because it fell within the Point Nepean Military Area, which had bases and coast artillery installations, not because it had treacherous surf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We Australians like to take pride that our prime ministers and big wigs are still able to get by without the cavalcades of security that are standard for some other heads of state.  Its really something nice to see my state Governor, for example, wandering around the local shops on a Saturday in search of a coffee, or the Prime Minister sitting in the front seat of the limo.  Of course, Harold Holt&#8217;s fate reminds us that sometimes it helps to have attentive grown-ups nearby.</p>
<p>The conspiracy theory is immortalised in pop culture by the [not very good band] Harold Holt and the Chinese Submarines.</p>
<p>Cheviot Beach was under military protection because it fell within the Point Nepean Military Area, which had bases and coast artillery installations, not because it had treacherous surf.</p>
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		<title>By: alanborky</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2012/01/the-prime-minister-who-disappeared/#comment-1367</link>
		<dc:creator>alanborky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 02:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the answer to this mystery might be in the accounts of the others in the party who attempted to go swimming themselves.

The extraordinary undertow activity they felt treacherously swirling round their feet and which ultimately put them off must&#039;ve reminded Holt of precisely the political situation he was confronted by over Vietnam when he first became prime minister.

On the one hand he&#039;d&#039;ve had local and international siren voices politically agitating both for and against making the US cause Australia&#039;s and on the other he&#039;d&#039;ve been all too aware how deeply resentful Australia&#039;s own youth would feel being ordered to sacrifice themselves for a cause they had little or no love for yet clearly his approach to such hostile conditions was simply to gird his loins and wade unhesitatingly in.

None of which precludes the possibility someone having a deep understanding of his fundamental psychological reactions to encountering opposition could&#039;ve engineered precisely a situation where his own innate macho stubbornness not to yield to the water would in effect cause him to &#039;murder&#039; himself.

Remember even though he was the prime minister he still had to ask permission to access the beach, a beach so notorious for its treacherous sea conditions it was under military protection.

Yet in spite of him being a prime minister in his mid sixties, having a damaged shoulder and nearly drowning six months previously that permission was granted without any kind of safety or monitoring facilities apparently being put discretely in place.

Funnily enough in ancient times, particularly in Ancient Rome, whenever someone &#039;drowned&#039; it was invariably instantly understood what&#039;d really taken place.

The more things change, etc., etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the answer to this mystery might be in the accounts of the others in the party who attempted to go swimming themselves.</p>
<p>The extraordinary undertow activity they felt treacherously swirling round their feet and which ultimately put them off must&#8217;ve reminded Holt of precisely the political situation he was confronted by over Vietnam when he first became prime minister.</p>
<p>On the one hand he&#8217;d've had local and international siren voices politically agitating both for and against making the US cause Australia&#8217;s and on the other he&#8217;d've been all too aware how deeply resentful Australia&#8217;s own youth would feel being ordered to sacrifice themselves for a cause they had little or no love for yet clearly his approach to such hostile conditions was simply to gird his loins and wade unhesitatingly in.</p>
<p>None of which precludes the possibility someone having a deep understanding of his fundamental psychological reactions to encountering opposition could&#8217;ve engineered precisely a situation where his own innate macho stubbornness not to yield to the water would in effect cause him to &#8216;murder&#8217; himself.</p>
<p>Remember even though he was the prime minister he still had to ask permission to access the beach, a beach so notorious for its treacherous sea conditions it was under military protection.</p>
<p>Yet in spite of him being a prime minister in his mid sixties, having a damaged shoulder and nearly drowning six months previously that permission was granted without any kind of safety or monitoring facilities apparently being put discretely in place.</p>
<p>Funnily enough in ancient times, particularly in Ancient Rome, whenever someone &#8216;drowned&#8217; it was invariably instantly understood what&#8217;d really taken place.</p>
<p>The more things change, etc., etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Byron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2012/01/the-prime-minister-who-disappeared/#comment-1357</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Byron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe you left out the punchline to the Harold Holt story - after he drowned, a Victorian council named their public swimming pool after him. Which is the perfect example of the Australian sense of humour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe you left out the punchline to the Harold Holt story &#8211; after he drowned, a Victorian council named their public swimming pool after him. Which is the perfect example of the Australian sense of humour.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2012/01/the-prime-minister-who-disappeared/#comment-1356</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does it say about Australians that his best known memorial was a swimming center.
http://www.onlymelbourne.com.au/melbourne_details.php?id=8242</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it say about Australians that his best known memorial was a swimming center.<br />
<a href="http://www.onlymelbourne.com.au/melbourne_details.php?id=8242" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlymelbourne.com.au/melbourne_details.php?id=8242</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2012/01/the-prime-minister-who-disappeared/#comment-1352</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to fix Sarah&#039;s link- the closed parenthesis symbol messes it up...  http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/03/the-lost-naturalist-a-163-year-old-australian-mystery/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to fix Sarah&#8217;s link- the closed parenthesis symbol messes it up&#8230;  <a href="http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/03/the-lost-naturalist-a-163-year-old-australian-mystery/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/03/the-lost-naturalist-a-163-year-old-australian-mystery/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cath</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2012/01/the-prime-minister-who-disappeared/#comment-1349</link>
		<dc:creator>Cath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 04:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://vrroom.naa.gov.au/records/?ID=24848&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;photo of crowds welcoming LBJ&lt;/a&gt; to Australia in 1966.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here&#8217;s a <a href="http://vrroom.naa.gov.au/records/?ID=24848" rel="nofollow">photo of crowds welcoming LBJ</a> to Australia in 1966.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Zielinski</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2012/01/the-prime-minister-who-disappeared/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Zielinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australia is full of stories of people disappearing (for example, http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/03/the-lost-naturalist-a-163-year-old-australian-mystery/). Even today when you visit, someone will tell you a tale about one guy or another who went off into the bush (or the forest or the water) never to return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australia is full of stories of people disappearing (for example, <a href="http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/03/the-lost-naturalist-a-163-year-old-australian-mystery/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/03/the-lost-naturalist-a-163-year-old-australian-mystery/</a>). Even today when you visit, someone will tell you a tale about one guy or another who went off into the bush (or the forest or the water) never to return.</p>
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