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	<title>Comments on: How Death Played a Role in the Evolution of Human Height</title>
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	<description>Meet the members of the tangled human family tree</description>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/hominids/2012/12/how-death-played-a-role-in-the-evolution-of-human-height/#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Healthcare and toxin exposure? The article is about the evolution of long lifespans early in our evolutionary history. The researchers were not even studying human beings. Healthcare accessibility and pollutants could not have been contributing factors.

Vivian - African pygmies do not live in deserts; these tribes are indigenous to the rainforests of western Africa. 

Both Vivian and Cameron are confusing proximate versus ultimate explanations. Both can be correct at the same time. Proximate explanations look at the mechanisms that cause the phenomenon in question. Ultimate explanations - which is the level of inquiry for the study - examine how the force of natural selection may favor the change we see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Healthcare and toxin exposure? The article is about the evolution of long lifespans early in our evolutionary history. The researchers were not even studying human beings. Healthcare accessibility and pollutants could not have been contributing factors.</p>
<p>Vivian &#8211; African pygmies do not live in deserts; these tribes are indigenous to the rainforests of western Africa. </p>
<p>Both Vivian and Cameron are confusing proximate versus ultimate explanations. Both can be correct at the same time. Proximate explanations look at the mechanisms that cause the phenomenon in question. Ultimate explanations &#8211; which is the level of inquiry for the study &#8211; examine how the force of natural selection may favor the change we see.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/hominids/2012/12/how-death-played-a-role-in-the-evolution-of-human-height/#comment-1046</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Early puberty is more related to toxin exposure than to nutrition in the US.  When an organism is stressed, it rushes to reproduce as quickly as possible. Children who do not eat a standard diet but still get plenty of nutrition are not having the early puberty.

A large boned heavy pale northern person would expire quickly in the desert where an African pigmy can thrive.  An African pigmy would die quickly where the large northerner would thrive.

In some family genetics, the boy stays small and then does a rapid growth at 15-16. (perhaps to be allowed to reach the age of maturity left over from more violent times)  In other families, the boys grow evenly over the span of their childhoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Early puberty is more related to toxin exposure than to nutrition in the US.  When an organism is stressed, it rushes to reproduce as quickly as possible. Children who do not eat a standard diet but still get plenty of nutrition are not having the early puberty.</p>
<p>A large boned heavy pale northern person would expire quickly in the desert where an African pigmy can thrive.  An African pigmy would die quickly where the large northerner would thrive.</p>
<p>In some family genetics, the boy stays small and then does a rapid growth at 15-16. (perhaps to be allowed to reach the age of maturity left over from more violent times)  In other families, the boys grow evenly over the span of their childhoods.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/hominids/2012/12/how-death-played-a-role-in-the-evolution-of-human-height/#comment-1044</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it likely that other variables are lending their explaining power to mortality/life expectancy as the three life expectancy variable surely depend on things like food availability, disease prevalence, access to healthcare, climate (droughts, etc), and a whole host of other factors?

I would assume that some of the factors that explain life expectancy also individually help explain height and, because life expectancy encompasses some of these factors, the analysis may represent these other factors as being less significant than life expectancy in explaining height variation.

At the end of the day life expectancy may still be a good way of predicting height variation but it would seem wrong to conclude that it is life expectancy driving the variation in height and not the factors that contribute to life expectancy. I&#039;m sure some of the factors that contribute to life expectancy also contribute to age at onset of puberty and other developmental stages.

I do admit I haven&#039;t yet read the study or looked over how they chose to model the data and analyse the statistics. I&#039;ve been trying to get through the back-log of posts in Google Reader and now&#039;s not the time to get bogged down with only 245 more entries to read through!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it likely that other variables are lending their explaining power to mortality/life expectancy as the three life expectancy variable surely depend on things like food availability, disease prevalence, access to healthcare, climate (droughts, etc), and a whole host of other factors?</p>
<p>I would assume that some of the factors that explain life expectancy also individually help explain height and, because life expectancy encompasses some of these factors, the analysis may represent these other factors as being less significant than life expectancy in explaining height variation.</p>
<p>At the end of the day life expectancy may still be a good way of predicting height variation but it would seem wrong to conclude that it is life expectancy driving the variation in height and not the factors that contribute to life expectancy. I&#8217;m sure some of the factors that contribute to life expectancy also contribute to age at onset of puberty and other developmental stages.</p>
<p>I do admit I haven&#8217;t yet read the study or looked over how they chose to model the data and analyse the statistics. I&#8217;ve been trying to get through the back-log of posts in Google Reader and now&#8217;s not the time to get bogged down with only 245 more entries to read through!</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Fish</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/hominids/2012/12/how-death-played-a-role-in-the-evolution-of-human-height/#comment-1039</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating.</p>
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