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	<title>Comments on: A New Great Depression and Ladies on the Moon: 1970s Middle School Kids Look to the Year 2000</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/paleofuture/2012/10/a-new-great-depression-and-ladies-on-the-moon-1970s-middle-school-kids-look-to-the-year-2000/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike Metzger, You&#039;re right. I shouldn&#039;t have made such a blanket statement like that. You know what they say about assuming...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike Metzger, You&#8217;re right. I shouldn&#8217;t have made such a blanket statement like that. You know what they say about assuming&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike McElwain</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/paleofuture/2012/10/a-new-great-depression-and-ladies-on-the-moon-1970s-middle-school-kids-look-to-the-year-2000/#comment-945</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike McElwain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Metzger...

My name is Mike McElwain and I&#039;m the online editor of the Steubenville Herald-Star. I want to do an update story and include you and others from the class who were involved in this project.

I hope to go into the surrounding schools and have teachers ask the question again for historical reasons and then publish today&#039;s answers.

If you can, go to the Herald-Star&#039;s website, click on &quot;Contact Us&quot; then click on &quot;Contact Us&quot; again to get the list of email addresses.

Look for my name under &quot;Newsroom&quot; and that is my work email address. Sometimes email addresses get removed from posts such as this.

If anyone participated in the project back in 1977, please feel free to contact me as well.

Thanks,

- Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Metzger&#8230;</p>
<p>My name is Mike McElwain and I&#8217;m the online editor of the Steubenville Herald-Star. I want to do an update story and include you and others from the class who were involved in this project.</p>
<p>I hope to go into the surrounding schools and have teachers ask the question again for historical reasons and then publish today&#8217;s answers.</p>
<p>If you can, go to the Herald-Star&#8217;s website, click on &#8220;Contact Us&#8221; then click on &#8220;Contact Us&#8221; again to get the list of email addresses.</p>
<p>Look for my name under &#8220;Newsroom&#8221; and that is my work email address. Sometimes email addresses get removed from posts such as this.</p>
<p>If anyone participated in the project back in 1977, please feel free to contact me as well.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>- Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Metzger</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/paleofuture/2012/10/a-new-great-depression-and-ladies-on-the-moon-1970s-middle-school-kids-look-to-the-year-2000/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Metzger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaime, oh yes, we watched Star Trek! LOL And Space 1999 was a biggy too! But if we, as kids, seemed fixated on gas and oil, it&#039;s because that was a major concern at the time. I clearly remember gas lines...people waiting in line to get gas. Where we lived it wasn&#039;t as bad as what we saw on the news, but it was still there. As for watching Star Trek, or any show really...TV was popular, sure...but it wasn&#039;t a dominant factor in our lives. We played out in the streets until dark or until our parents yelled for us to come in. The world didn&#039;t seem to as filled with creeps as it is today. You rarely heard about pedophiles, etc. I&#039;m sure the existed, but you didn&#039;t hear about them all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaime, oh yes, we watched Star Trek! LOL And Space 1999 was a biggy too! But if we, as kids, seemed fixated on gas and oil, it&#8217;s because that was a major concern at the time. I clearly remember gas lines&#8230;people waiting in line to get gas. Where we lived it wasn&#8217;t as bad as what we saw on the news, but it was still there. As for watching Star Trek, or any show really&#8230;TV was popular, sure&#8230;but it wasn&#8217;t a dominant factor in our lives. We played out in the streets until dark or until our parents yelled for us to come in. The world didn&#8217;t seem to as filled with creeps as it is today. You rarely heard about pedophiles, etc. I&#8217;m sure the existed, but you didn&#8217;t hear about them all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Metzger</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/paleofuture/2012/10/a-new-great-depression-and-ladies-on-the-moon-1970s-middle-school-kids-look-to-the-year-2000/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Metzger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, my comment on the Model T was based on the fact that just a day or two prior to writing this assignment for school, a friend of my dad&#039;s stopped by in his newly refurbished Model T and took me for a ride. I thought it was the coolest thing ever and tended to fixate on it for weeks.

As for culture, it meant to me then pretty much the same as it does now. Everything from art and literature to music and fashion to the societal mindset as a whole (although I doubt I used the term &quot;societal mindset&quot; at that age. LOL).  I saw us moving away from a society looking out for each other. There were still a lot of folks with community pride then...not so much of the ME ME ME types as today. I&#039;m not saying either is right or wrong, just different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, my comment on the Model T was based on the fact that just a day or two prior to writing this assignment for school, a friend of my dad&#8217;s stopped by in his newly refurbished Model T and took me for a ride. I thought it was the coolest thing ever and tended to fixate on it for weeks.</p>
<p>As for culture, it meant to me then pretty much the same as it does now. Everything from art and literature to music and fashion to the societal mindset as a whole (although I doubt I used the term &#8220;societal mindset&#8221; at that age. LOL).  I saw us moving away from a society looking out for each other. There were still a lot of folks with community pride then&#8230;not so much of the ME ME ME types as today. I&#8217;m not saying either is right or wrong, just different.</p>
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		<title>By: Discoglosse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Discoglosse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... A few retrofuturistic collages of mine on my blog, please check discoglosse.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; A few retrofuturistic collages of mine on my blog, please check discoglosse.com</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/paleofuture/2012/10/a-new-great-depression-and-ladies-on-the-moon-1970s-middle-school-kids-look-to-the-year-2000/#comment-916</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or did these kids sound more articulate and literate than kids of today. The writing seems like that of a middle schooler or beyond. Good article. But what is it with gas and oil being such a fixation. Didn&#039;t these kids ever watch science fiction or Star Trek jeez!!! I guess if I brought one of these kids to present day, they will think I power my ipad with fuel! lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or did these kids sound more articulate and literate than kids of today. The writing seems like that of a middle schooler or beyond. Good article. But what is it with gas and oil being such a fixation. Didn&#8217;t these kids ever watch science fiction or Star Trek jeez!!! I guess if I brought one of these kids to present day, they will think I power my ipad with fuel! lol</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/paleofuture/2012/10/a-new-great-depression-and-ladies-on-the-moon-1970s-middle-school-kids-look-to-the-year-2000/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Metzer - You comment really stuck out as something very strange for a kid to say. &quot;And as for culture, the Model T will be an old artifact. And, if you have children or grandchildren, they’ll all be more interested in culture than ever.&quot; I don&#039;t think I understood the concept of culture at that age. I&#039;m curious. What did &quot;culture&quot; mean to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Metzer &#8211; You comment really stuck out as something very strange for a kid to say. &#8220;And as for culture, the Model T will be an old artifact. And, if you have children or grandchildren, they’ll all be more interested in culture than ever.&#8221; I don&#8217;t think I understood the concept of culture at that age. I&#8217;m curious. What did &#8220;culture&#8221; mean to you?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Metzger</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/paleofuture/2012/10/a-new-great-depression-and-ladies-on-the-moon-1970s-middle-school-kids-look-to-the-year-2000/#comment-912</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Metzger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, as one of the kids in this piece (now 46), I can tell you that a large number of my contemporaries are FAR from being Limbaugh conservatives. There are a few, but they are not the norm. I can&#039;t think of a one of us who &quot;moan about the good old days without computers&quot; or &quot;decry space exploration as a waste of money&quot;. Remember, we all watched man land on the moon. That was our childhood. We all drank Tang because we were told the astronauts did! LOL

We also grew up under the real threat of nuclear war. None of us ever really talked about much...but we were always aware of it. I remember the drills in school. On the rare occasions we did talk about it, we would try to guess who woul survive and who wouln&#039;t. 

My girlfriend is much younger than I am (only 31) and there are times that I am reminded that her childhood was a different time than mine. Not really a large number of years but a large number of things had changed. We didn&#039;t have computers in school until maybe junior or senior year...and those were TRS80s! LOL 

I hope that the kids today get to experience something like this - being able to look back and see something in print that we said. It seems like no big deal nowadays...but when I think back to 1977, so much has changed. I can&#039;t wait to see what the next 35 years bring!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, as one of the kids in this piece (now 46), I can tell you that a large number of my contemporaries are FAR from being Limbaugh conservatives. There are a few, but they are not the norm. I can&#8217;t think of a one of us who &#8220;moan about the good old days without computers&#8221; or &#8220;decry space exploration as a waste of money&#8221;. Remember, we all watched man land on the moon. That was our childhood. We all drank Tang because we were told the astronauts did! LOL</p>
<p>We also grew up under the real threat of nuclear war. None of us ever really talked about much&#8230;but we were always aware of it. I remember the drills in school. On the rare occasions we did talk about it, we would try to guess who woul survive and who wouln&#8217;t. </p>
<p>My girlfriend is much younger than I am (only 31) and there are times that I am reminded that her childhood was a different time than mine. Not really a large number of years but a large number of things had changed. We didn&#8217;t have computers in school until maybe junior or senior year&#8230;and those were TRS80s! LOL </p>
<p>I hope that the kids today get to experience something like this &#8211; being able to look back and see something in print that we said. It seems like no big deal nowadays&#8230;but when I think back to 1977, so much has changed. I can&#8217;t wait to see what the next 35 years bring!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/paleofuture/2012/10/a-new-great-depression-and-ladies-on-the-moon-1970s-middle-school-kids-look-to-the-year-2000/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the poster who asked if our technology really makes life better: I&#039;d say so. Sure there are always downsides, but I love being able to access virtually any kind of information on whim, I love being able follow a GPS route to an unfamiliar destination as opposed to squinting at lines on a paper map, I think it&#039;s great that we complain about &quot;working&quot; at a desk in front of a PC as opposed to toiling in a field to make enough food to both eat and sell for a living. I think being glued myopically to a screen is really the fault of the user and not the technology. I still go for runs outside, enjoy seeing animals and nature at parks, and as a college student the idea that this generation is lacking social skills due to technology is a flat out myth. 

What I would really like to know is how many of these young dreamers grew up to be Limbaugh conservatives who supported the Iraq war, howled in indignation about Solyndra, bash EVs as &quot;Obamamobiles,&quot; rabidly support fossil fuel industries and practices like fracking, moan about &quot;the good old days&quot; without computers, and decry space exploration as a waste of money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the poster who asked if our technology really makes life better: I&#8217;d say so. Sure there are always downsides, but I love being able to access virtually any kind of information on whim, I love being able follow a GPS route to an unfamiliar destination as opposed to squinting at lines on a paper map, I think it&#8217;s great that we complain about &#8220;working&#8221; at a desk in front of a PC as opposed to toiling in a field to make enough food to both eat and sell for a living. I think being glued myopically to a screen is really the fault of the user and not the technology. I still go for runs outside, enjoy seeing animals and nature at parks, and as a college student the idea that this generation is lacking social skills due to technology is a flat out myth. </p>
<p>What I would really like to know is how many of these young dreamers grew up to be Limbaugh conservatives who supported the Iraq war, howled in indignation about Solyndra, bash EVs as &#8220;Obamamobiles,&#8221; rabidly support fossil fuel industries and practices like fracking, moan about &#8220;the good old days&#8221; without computers, and decry space exploration as a waste of money?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/paleofuture/2012/10/a-new-great-depression-and-ladies-on-the-moon-1970s-middle-school-kids-look-to-the-year-2000/#comment-909</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the predictions have nuggets of truth (computer run world) and others are way off (violence free world?). 

A lot of these predictions simply have their timing off. Pocket Computers came of age as smartphones closer to 2010 rather than 2000. Rooftop solar panels are slowly becoming more common in recent years. Electric cars such as the Volt and Tesla Model S are just now gaining a bit of steam (Volts in particular are definately inching closer to becoming almost &quot;common&quot; here in Northeast Ohio).

As for robotics, well we don&#039;t have Rosie yet but robots are common if you know where to look for them. Industrial robots are well established and are becoming lower priced and more intelligent, UAVs are a major technology on the world stage and it appears that civilian versions are on the way. 
Robots are being either currently used or close to being available for use in surgery, milking, agriculture, bomb disposal, fire fighting, disaster response, military reconaissance, ocean surveilence, lifeguard duty (EMILY), etc. If you follow news in the robotic industry, the consensus is that a &#039;tipping point&quot; is approaching.

As always, the predictions about space travel are always the most depressing, for me. It&#039;s probably because we were on the right track, with the first moon landing less than a decade after the first manned flight and all, and the total failure of Congress to keep us on track. Here&#039;s to hoping that the rise of private spaceflight companies like SpaceX, Bigelow Aerospace, Mars One, Virgin Galactic, and co. will step up and realize the dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the predictions have nuggets of truth (computer run world) and others are way off (violence free world?). </p>
<p>A lot of these predictions simply have their timing off. Pocket Computers came of age as smartphones closer to 2010 rather than 2000. Rooftop solar panels are slowly becoming more common in recent years. Electric cars such as the Volt and Tesla Model S are just now gaining a bit of steam (Volts in particular are definately inching closer to becoming almost &#8220;common&#8221; here in Northeast Ohio).</p>
<p>As for robotics, well we don&#8217;t have Rosie yet but robots are common if you know where to look for them. Industrial robots are well established and are becoming lower priced and more intelligent, UAVs are a major technology on the world stage and it appears that civilian versions are on the way.<br />
Robots are being either currently used or close to being available for use in surgery, milking, agriculture, bomb disposal, fire fighting, disaster response, military reconaissance, ocean surveilence, lifeguard duty (EMILY), etc. If you follow news in the robotic industry, the consensus is that a &#8216;tipping point&#8221; is approaching.</p>
<p>As always, the predictions about space travel are always the most depressing, for me. It&#8217;s probably because we were on the right track, with the first moon landing less than a decade after the first manned flight and all, and the total failure of Congress to keep us on track. Here&#8217;s to hoping that the rise of private spaceflight companies like SpaceX, Bigelow Aerospace, Mars One, Virgin Galactic, and co. will step up and realize the dream.</p>
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