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	<title>Comments on: Hominids&#8217; African Origins, 50 Years Later</title>
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		<title>By: James P. Zaworski</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-2843</link>
		<dc:creator>James P. Zaworski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed this article, and agree that there have been an amazing number of Hominid, and Hominin, fossils since the Leakey&#039;s search in Olduvai Gorge fifty odd years ago.
Even since I started studying human origins academically in 1985 have there been a startling number of discoveries.  I recall my first human origins course at Knox College, where we had been reading two books, one by Don Johansen, discoverer of &quot;Lucy&quot; and the other by Richard Leakey.  One postulated Australopithecus afarensis as the &#039;missing link&#039;, and the other postulated Australopithecus africanus as the direct ancestor of our line.  I had the great pleasure and privilege of meeting Richard Leakey, who visited the college to give a lecture, and also visited our class.

The interpretations are made as the discoveries are made, and that has always been the case.  The really fascinating news is that improvements in extracting ancient DNA have resulted in startling new interpretations, namely the Max Planck Institute&#039;s extraction of Neandertal DNA and comparing it with modern DNA, showing a much closer relationship between our species and the Neandertals.

I think the next fifty years will yield some startling and surprising discoveries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this article, and agree that there have been an amazing number of Hominid, and Hominin, fossils since the Leakey&#8217;s search in Olduvai Gorge fifty odd years ago.<br />
Even since I started studying human origins academically in 1985 have there been a startling number of discoveries.  I recall my first human origins course at Knox College, where we had been reading two books, one by Don Johansen, discoverer of &#8220;Lucy&#8221; and the other by Richard Leakey.  One postulated Australopithecus afarensis as the &#8216;missing link&#8217;, and the other postulated Australopithecus africanus as the direct ancestor of our line.  I had the great pleasure and privilege of meeting Richard Leakey, who visited the college to give a lecture, and also visited our class.</p>
<p>The interpretations are made as the discoveries are made, and that has always been the case.  The really fascinating news is that improvements in extracting ancient DNA have resulted in startling new interpretations, namely the Max Planck Institute&#8217;s extraction of Neandertal DNA and comparing it with modern DNA, showing a much closer relationship between our species and the Neandertals.</p>
<p>I think the next fifty years will yield some startling and surprising discoveries.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-2752</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Christian and I am taking an anthropology class in college. I see and hear creationists derided constantly for believing in a something for which there is supposedly no evidence. We are accused of being close-minded and refusing to examine the evidene, of relying solely on faith to prop us up. 
I would challenge evolutionists: have you looked at our evidence? Have you given a fair thought to whether God might actually exist? And if he did why couldn&#039;t he have created everything? It is just as difficult to prove that there is no God as it is to prove that there IS one, if not more so. 
Men do not believe because they are not searching. We all have the same evidence to examine. Evolutionists approach it with the presupposition that God does not exist and come up with the next best answer to the ultimate question: Where did we come from? When you approach that same question and the facts available with the attitude that God is at the very least a possibility, it is not hard to draw a solid conclusion. 
I approached my class determined to learn as much as I could about human evolution and find out exactly what it is that I don&#039;t believe. I admit that the hominoid family tree seems to be indisputable evidence at times. But I also know that the reality of God in this universe is inescapable. So I challenge this: that every man look with an open mind. Open to the idea that God does not exist AND open to the idea that he does. It might be just a little more constructive than describing the other point of view as &quot;spouting nonsense.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Christian and I am taking an anthropology class in college. I see and hear creationists derided constantly for believing in a something for which there is supposedly no evidence. We are accused of being close-minded and refusing to examine the evidene, of relying solely on faith to prop us up.<br />
I would challenge evolutionists: have you looked at our evidence? Have you given a fair thought to whether God might actually exist? And if he did why couldn&#8217;t he have created everything? It is just as difficult to prove that there is no God as it is to prove that there IS one, if not more so.<br />
Men do not believe because they are not searching. We all have the same evidence to examine. Evolutionists approach it with the presupposition that God does not exist and come up with the next best answer to the ultimate question: Where did we come from? When you approach that same question and the facts available with the attitude that God is at the very least a possibility, it is not hard to draw a solid conclusion.<br />
I approached my class determined to learn as much as I could about human evolution and find out exactly what it is that I don&#8217;t believe. I admit that the hominoid family tree seems to be indisputable evidence at times. But I also know that the reality of God in this universe is inescapable. So I challenge this: that every man look with an open mind. Open to the idea that God does not exist AND open to the idea that he does. It might be just a little more constructive than describing the other point of view as &#8220;spouting nonsense.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: shaun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-1723</link>
		<dc:creator>shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems that the religiously deluded readers, do not actually read, at least not anything more than a good fairy tale every now and again..

deborah...where did the ape come from...? wtf...have you ever watch a science program? they have this new invention..called discovery channel...it has fossils...ie skeletons of very old things..try it sometime..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems that the religiously deluded readers, do not actually read, at least not anything more than a good fairy tale every now and again..</p>
<p>deborah&#8230;where did the ape come from&#8230;? wtf&#8230;have you ever watch a science program? they have this new invention..called discovery channel&#8230;it has fossils&#8230;ie skeletons of very old things..try it sometime..</p>
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		<title>By: A.C.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator>A.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dismissing an article on the premise that it is &quot;incoherent&quot; and snidely jabbing at the hominid family tree because there are slots yet to be filled does not make the evidence that it presents any less valid. The competence of the writer (which I&#039;m not questioning because I&#039;m not that childish) has nothing to do with the evidence in question. And, gaps or not, scientists have been and still are painfully and meticulously filling them in with the fossils they uncover. Just because there are gaps doesn&#039;t mean they will never be filled. The idea of evolution and the discovery of the fossils of our ancestors are fairly recent developments in the scheme of things. Time and patience are required. And, as Ardi has recently shown us, along with the other fossils that populate the &quot;pathetic&quot; evidence tree, those gaps are being filled. 

I invite creationists to support the God theory with solid, material evidence. What&#039;s that you say? There isn&#039;t any? 

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dismissing an article on the premise that it is &#8220;incoherent&#8221; and snidely jabbing at the hominid family tree because there are slots yet to be filled does not make the evidence that it presents any less valid. The competence of the writer (which I&#8217;m not questioning because I&#8217;m not that childish) has nothing to do with the evidence in question. And, gaps or not, scientists have been and still are painfully and meticulously filling them in with the fossils they uncover. Just because there are gaps doesn&#8217;t mean they will never be filled. The idea of evolution and the discovery of the fossils of our ancestors are fairly recent developments in the scheme of things. Time and patience are required. And, as Ardi has recently shown us, along with the other fossils that populate the &#8220;pathetic&#8221; evidence tree, those gaps are being filled. </p>
<p>I invite creationists to support the God theory with solid, material evidence. What&#8217;s that you say? There isn&#8217;t any? </p>
<p>Put that in your pipe and smoke it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-870</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the creationists should read &quot;Why Evolution Is True&quot; by Jerry A Coyne.  He cites religious philosophers and those acknowledged by Catholic and Protestant religions alike. It is a very interesting and timely read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the creationists should read &#8220;Why Evolution Is True&#8221; by Jerry A Coyne.  He cites religious philosophers and those acknowledged by Catholic and Protestant religions alike. It is a very interesting and timely read.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And also, if man evolved from ape, where did the ape come from?</description>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does evolution mean that at this very moment in time there is a human evolving from an ape?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does evolution mean that at this very moment in time there is a human evolving from an ape?</p>
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		<title>By: Puech Pierre-François</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Puech Pierre-François</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Leakey was a woman of great humanity. Not to mention the fact that she appreciated the coffee and spaghetti prepared by Maurice Taieb a discoverer of Lucy, a cousin of the Nutcracker, and the cigar Romeo and Juliet, she has always encouraged research and facilitated access to the fossils under her responsibility (I was for a time the dental examiner of these hominids) . We are all indebted, and she remains etched in our memories. Pierre Francois Puech</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Leakey was a woman of great humanity. Not to mention the fact that she appreciated the coffee and spaghetti prepared by Maurice Taieb a discoverer of Lucy, a cousin of the Nutcracker, and the cigar Romeo and Juliet, she has always encouraged research and facilitated access to the fossils under her responsibility (I was for a time the dental examiner of these hominids) . We are all indebted, and she remains etched in our memories. Pierre Francois Puech</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Trueman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-783</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Trueman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it highly amusing to hear and read both sides of the creation/evolution dicussions/disputes for personally, I find separating the two concepts rather odd.  Why is it impossible for there to be NO dichotomy?  Why is it impossible to imagine that creation and evolution are, essentially, one and the same?  I am sure theologians could spend quite a bit of time and energy and expend tons of bile, anger, pity and tut-tuts at my very unenlightened point of view.  Ah, well.  Whatever I am, I was created and since that creation have evolved from a small being to whatever it is I am today, some 82 years later!  PS:  I find nothing un-human about the remains Mary Leakey discovered.  Indeed, &quot;Lucy&quot; (I believe one set of bones was called) appears quite human to me, even if she is early in the development of humans as we stand today.  Oh, and I also do not believe Neaderthals completedly vanished!  Personally, I have met several that I feel are probably fairly direct descendents of theirs!   Anne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it highly amusing to hear and read both sides of the creation/evolution dicussions/disputes for personally, I find separating the two concepts rather odd.  Why is it impossible for there to be NO dichotomy?  Why is it impossible to imagine that creation and evolution are, essentially, one and the same?  I am sure theologians could spend quite a bit of time and energy and expend tons of bile, anger, pity and tut-tuts at my very unenlightened point of view.  Ah, well.  Whatever I am, I was created and since that creation have evolved from a small being to whatever it is I am today, some 82 years later!  PS:  I find nothing un-human about the remains Mary Leakey discovered.  Indeed, &#8220;Lucy&#8221; (I believe one set of bones was called) appears quite human to me, even if she is early in the development of humans as we stand today.  Oh, and I also do not believe Neaderthals completedly vanished!  Personally, I have met several that I feel are probably fairly direct descendents of theirs!   Anne</p>
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		<title>By: majii</title>
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		<dc:creator>majii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is puzzlng to me about the creationists is why they place a specific date approximately 6,000 years ago when determining the age of the earth or whatever?  This seems contrary to what the Christian Bible states when it says that no one knows the mind of God.  They seem to have taken God&#039;s role away from Him on this issue because God didn&#039;t come up with this date.  They did all on their own, and now they want to shove it down all our throats by incorporating it into every sector of American society, so I&#039;m going to call it what it is:  extreme nationalism perceived as a threat to their existence, accompanied by an extra strong dose of highly refined fear.  They get on my last nerve, but I try to the best of my ability to ignore them while going on about my business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is puzzlng to me about the creationists is why they place a specific date approximately 6,000 years ago when determining the age of the earth or whatever?  This seems contrary to what the Christian Bible states when it says that no one knows the mind of God.  They seem to have taken God&#8217;s role away from Him on this issue because God didn&#8217;t come up with this date.  They did all on their own, and now they want to shove it down all our throats by incorporating it into every sector of American society, so I&#8217;m going to call it what it is:  extreme nationalism perceived as a threat to their existence, accompanied by an extra strong dose of highly refined fear.  They get on my last nerve, but I try to the best of my ability to ignore them while going on about my business.</p>
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		<title>By: PDQ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>PDQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter how much evidence is collected, creationists will never accept it. Really sad that such ilk manage to muck about with scientific inquiry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter how much evidence is collected, creationists will never accept it. Really sad that such ilk manage to muck about with scientific inquiry.</p>
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		<title>By: Jb</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-766</link>
		<dc:creator>Jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the incoherent nature of this article.  It begins with a random bashing of creationists for no apparent reason and providing a pathetic link to evidence it.  Then it moves into a completely unrelated blend of a Leaky biography with hominid history.  
The biggest kick out of it all is, the evidence to debase those infidel creationists is a link to a hominid family tree.  If you try to learn more about our &quot;ancestors&quot; this is the message you receive: &quot;&quot;We&#039;re sorry that our site is still incomplete.  We are trying to get the all of the gaps filled. Please try back here at a later date&quot;
Sounds like there are still quite a few &quot;small&quot; gaps to be filled.  Keep on trying to bash creationists, but at least fill in the &quot;gaps&quot; in your evidence before doing so.
I&#039;m quite surprised Smithsonian published this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the incoherent nature of this article.  It begins with a random bashing of creationists for no apparent reason and providing a pathetic link to evidence it.  Then it moves into a completely unrelated blend of a Leaky biography with hominid history.<br />
The biggest kick out of it all is, the evidence to debase those infidel creationists is a link to a hominid family tree.  If you try to learn more about our &#8220;ancestors&#8221; this is the message you receive: &#8220;&#8221;We&#8217;re sorry that our site is still incomplete.  We are trying to get the all of the gaps filled. Please try back here at a later date&#8221;<br />
Sounds like there are still quite a few &#8220;small&#8221; gaps to be filled.  Keep on trying to bash creationists, but at least fill in the &#8220;gaps&#8221; in your evidence before doing so.<br />
I&#8217;m quite surprised Smithsonian published this.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Gainer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-764</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana Gainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While questions remain about the precise relationships and specific labels to be used among and for various fossils hominids, no reputable scientist doubts that humans evolved.  Perhaps before my children die of old age, most humans will get on board with this theory and we can stop reinventing that wheel at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While questions remain about the precise relationships and specific labels to be used among and for various fossils hominids, no reputable scientist doubts that humans evolved.  Perhaps before my children die of old age, most humans will get on board with this theory and we can stop reinventing that wheel at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Pklater</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator>Pklater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spare us your idiotic creationist theory blabber. There are more important things that need to be done besides pointing at the bible and crossing your hands saying; &quot;Yep, he did it, it says right here&quot;. Growing number of people are voicing their irritation about the whole idea, and I am glad for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spare us your idiotic creationist theory blabber. There are more important things that need to be done besides pointing at the bible and crossing your hands saying; &#8220;Yep, he did it, it says right here&#8221;. Growing number of people are voicing their irritation about the whole idea, and I am glad for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Hatchett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2009/07/hominids-african-origins-50-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-761</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Hatchett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note the big question mark right before Homo ergaster: 

http://anthropology.si.edu/HumanOrigins/ha/a_tree.html

Anything prior to Homo ergaster may or may not have had anything to do with human evolution, according to the Smithsonian&#039;s &quot;tree&quot;. 

You&#039;d think Laura would have caught this before going to press.

Charlie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note the big question mark right before Homo ergaster: </p>
<p><a href="http://anthropology.si.edu/HumanOrigins/ha/a_tree.html" rel="nofollow">http://anthropology.si.edu/HumanOrigins/ha/a_tree.html</a></p>
<p>Anything prior to Homo ergaster may or may not have had anything to do with human evolution, according to the Smithsonian&#8217;s &#8220;tree&#8221;. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d think Laura would have caught this before going to press.</p>
<p>Charlie</p>
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