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		<title>By: Mimi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/10/the-overwhelming-data-we-refuse-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-11731</link>
		<dc:creator>Mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 17:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the higher instance of Autism is comming from the GMO foods instead of the vaccines? Has anyone given this a look?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the higher instance of Autism is comming from the GMO foods instead of the vaccines? Has anyone given this a look?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Henry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/10/the-overwhelming-data-we-refuse-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-11678</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 17:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell you without a doubt that I get less sicknesses (colds) when I take Vitamin C than when I do not take it.  End of story, inconclusive research be damned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you without a doubt that I get less sicknesses (colds) when I take Vitamin C than when I do not take it.  End of story, inconclusive research be damned.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/10/the-overwhelming-data-we-refuse-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-11481</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 16:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not so much the science that people distrust but those who twist their findings to presents their point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not so much the science that people distrust but those who twist their findings to presents their point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Follow the money!  That will always lead to the truth.</description>
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		<title>By: BLegg</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandorin @ 18 - I don&#039;t think the world has &quot;gone mad&quot;. No one knows who to believe. For every science article claiming something is safe there&#039;s a contradicting report claiming it&#039;s harmful. Medicines are released to the public only to be recalled a few years later because they cause severe illness or death (late night lawyer commercials list dozens you can get paid if you took). I think people may be paranoid, but why shouldn&#039;t we be. Anything that attacks big business gets shut down immediately. If I reported tomorrow that driving a car caused heart attacks you&#039;d see dozens of reports (by the auto industry) showing the opposite.

I agree with the tone of the article, that we need to get back to a society which trusts in science. But, it&#039;s the scientific sponsorship process which needs to change in order to win the public back.

@19 - Can you site a source?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandorin @ 18 &#8211; I don&#8217;t think the world has &#8220;gone mad&#8221;. No one knows who to believe. For every science article claiming something is safe there&#8217;s a contradicting report claiming it&#8217;s harmful. Medicines are released to the public only to be recalled a few years later because they cause severe illness or death (late night lawyer commercials list dozens you can get paid if you took). I think people may be paranoid, but why shouldn&#8217;t we be. Anything that attacks big business gets shut down immediately. If I reported tomorrow that driving a car caused heart attacks you&#8217;d see dozens of reports (by the auto industry) showing the opposite.</p>
<p>I agree with the tone of the article, that we need to get back to a society which trusts in science. But, it&#8217;s the scientific sponsorship process which needs to change in order to win the public back.</p>
<p>@19 &#8211; Can you site a source?</p>
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		<title>By: Skyenicol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skyenicol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some real scientific facts about global climate:

A summary of the sequence of events for the last 130,000 years (&#039;real&#039; years);

150,000 y.a. - cold, dry full glacial world

around 130,000 y.a. - rapid warming initiates the Eemian interglacial (Stage 5e) [Without human interaction]

130,000-110,000 y.a. - global climates generally warmer and moister than present, but with progressive cooling to temperatures more similar to present.

(except for possible global cold, dry event at 121,000 y.a.)

?110,000 y.a. - a strong cooling marks the end of the Eemian interglacial (Stage 5e).

105,000-95,000 y.a. - climate warms slightly but still cooler and drier than present; strong fluctuations.

95,000 - 93,000 y.a. - another cooler phase similar to that at 110,000 y.a.

93,000 - 75,000 y.a. - a milder phase, resembling that at 105,000-95,000 y.a.

75,000 - 60,000 y.a. - full glacial world, cold and dry (the &#039;Lower Pleniglacial&#039; or Stage 4)

60,000 - 25,000 y.a. - &#039;middling phase&#039; of highly unstable but generally cooler and drier-than-present conditions (Stage 3)

25,000 - 15,000 y.a. - full glacial world, cold and dry; Stage 2 (includes the &#039;Last Glacial Maximum&#039;)

(This period includes two &#039;coldest phases&#039; - Heinrich Events - at around 23,000-21,000 y.a. and at 17,000-14,500 y.a.)

14,500 y.a. - rapid warming and moistening of climates in some areas.  Rapid deglaciation begins. [Without human interaction]

13,500 y.a. - nearly all areas with climates at least as warm and moist as today&#039;s

12,800 y.a. (+/- 200 years)- rapid onset of cool, dry Younger Dryas in many areas

11,500 y.a. (+/- 200 years) - Younger Dryas ends suddenly, back to warmth and moist climates (Holocene, or Stage 1) [Without human interaction]

9,000 y.a. - 8,200 y.a. - climates warmer and often moister than today&#039;s

about 8,200 y.a. - sudden cool and dry phase in many areas

8,000-4,500 y.a. - climates somewhat warmer and moister than today&#039;s [Without human interaction]

Since 4,500 y.a. - climates fairly similar to the present

about 2600 y.a. - relatively wet/cold event (of unknown duration) in many areas

1,400 y.a. {536 - 538 A.D.} wet cold event of reduced tree growth and famine across western Europe and possibly elsewhere 

700 - 200 y.a. (~1300 - ~1800 A.D.) &#039;Little Ice Age&#039;

 200 y.a. - today - began gradual NATURAL warming from lows of &#039;Little Ice Age&#039;

1970&#039;s - 1980&#039;s &quot;scientists&quot; predict coming Ice Age is imminent

1990&#039;s - 2000 same &quot;scientists&quot; predict catastrophic Man-made Global Warming.

Which era do we pick to try to recreate / maintain and spend $$$$$$$$$ with no real impact on nature&#039;s climate whims?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some real scientific facts about global climate:</p>
<p>A summary of the sequence of events for the last 130,000 years (&#8216;real&#8217; years);</p>
<p>150,000 y.a. &#8211; cold, dry full glacial world</p>
<p>around 130,000 y.a. &#8211; rapid warming initiates the Eemian interglacial (Stage 5e) [Without human interaction]</p>
<p>130,000-110,000 y.a. &#8211; global climates generally warmer and moister than present, but with progressive cooling to temperatures more similar to present.</p>
<p>(except for possible global cold, dry event at 121,000 y.a.)</p>
<p>?110,000 y.a. &#8211; a strong cooling marks the end of the Eemian interglacial (Stage 5e).</p>
<p>105,000-95,000 y.a. &#8211; climate warms slightly but still cooler and drier than present; strong fluctuations.</p>
<p>95,000 &#8211; 93,000 y.a. &#8211; another cooler phase similar to that at 110,000 y.a.</p>
<p>93,000 &#8211; 75,000 y.a. &#8211; a milder phase, resembling that at 105,000-95,000 y.a.</p>
<p>75,000 &#8211; 60,000 y.a. &#8211; full glacial world, cold and dry (the &#8216;Lower Pleniglacial&#8217; or Stage 4)</p>
<p>60,000 &#8211; 25,000 y.a. &#8211; &#8216;middling phase&#8217; of highly unstable but generally cooler and drier-than-present conditions (Stage 3)</p>
<p>25,000 &#8211; 15,000 y.a. &#8211; full glacial world, cold and dry; Stage 2 (includes the &#8216;Last Glacial Maximum&#8217;)</p>
<p>(This period includes two &#8216;coldest phases&#8217; &#8211; Heinrich Events &#8211; at around 23,000-21,000 y.a. and at 17,000-14,500 y.a.)</p>
<p>14,500 y.a. &#8211; rapid warming and moistening of climates in some areas.  Rapid deglaciation begins. [Without human interaction]</p>
<p>13,500 y.a. &#8211; nearly all areas with climates at least as warm and moist as today&#8217;s</p>
<p>12,800 y.a. (+/- 200 years)- rapid onset of cool, dry Younger Dryas in many areas</p>
<p>11,500 y.a. (+/- 200 years) &#8211; Younger Dryas ends suddenly, back to warmth and moist climates (Holocene, or Stage 1) [Without human interaction]</p>
<p>9,000 y.a. &#8211; 8,200 y.a. &#8211; climates warmer and often moister than today&#8217;s</p>
<p>about 8,200 y.a. &#8211; sudden cool and dry phase in many areas</p>
<p>8,000-4,500 y.a. &#8211; climates somewhat warmer and moister than today&#8217;s [Without human interaction]</p>
<p>Since 4,500 y.a. &#8211; climates fairly similar to the present</p>
<p>about 2600 y.a. &#8211; relatively wet/cold event (of unknown duration) in many areas</p>
<p>1,400 y.a. {536 &#8211; 538 A.D.} wet cold event of reduced tree growth and famine across western Europe and possibly elsewhere </p>
<p>700 &#8211; 200 y.a. (~1300 &#8211; ~1800 A.D.) &#8216;Little Ice Age&#8217;</p>
<p> 200 y.a. &#8211; today &#8211; began gradual NATURAL warming from lows of &#8216;Little Ice Age&#8217;</p>
<p>1970&#8242;s &#8211; 1980&#8242;s &#8220;scientists&#8221; predict coming Ice Age is imminent</p>
<p>1990&#8242;s &#8211; 2000 same &#8220;scientists&#8221; predict catastrophic Man-made Global Warming.</p>
<p>Which era do we pick to try to recreate / maintain and spend $$$$$$$$$ with no real impact on nature&#8217;s climate whims?</p>
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		<title>By: Mandorin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/10/the-overwhelming-data-we-refuse-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-10418</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 20:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment threads show the epidemic of paranoia best.  People are directly told that multiple studies have shown no link between vaccines and autism, and most of these comments have contrary &quot;evidence&quot; provided by fellow conspiracy theorists that in their minds refutes good science.  I&#039;d like to see a study done about how people will believe anyone, saying anything, as long as it reinforces previously held beliefs.  Was 9/11 an inside job?  Was the Moon landing faked?  Denver airport part of a plot to spread plague throughout the world?  Society has gone mad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment threads show the epidemic of paranoia best.  People are directly told that multiple studies have shown no link between vaccines and autism, and most of these comments have contrary &#8220;evidence&#8221; provided by fellow conspiracy theorists that in their minds refutes good science.  I&#8217;d like to see a study done about how people will believe anyone, saying anything, as long as it reinforces previously held beliefs.  Was 9/11 an inside job?  Was the Moon landing faked?  Denver airport part of a plot to spread plague throughout the world?  Society has gone mad.</p>
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		<title>By: Loud Liberal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/10/the-overwhelming-data-we-refuse-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-10355</link>
		<dc:creator>Loud Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 18:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, you are so right.  Outright scientific fraud is epidemic.  But, worse, and more insidious, is scientific financial conflict of interest.  Virtually all scientific study is funded by capitalist concerns with a financial interest in the outcome.  Those involved in such research know what their job is - to serve the financial interests of their direct, or indirect, employer.  If the employer doesn&#039;t like the outcome that it paid for, the researcher should expect to be hired again.  That&#039;s why FDA approved pharmaceutical drugs can never be presumed to be either safe or effective.  Notwithstanding the blatent, open and obvious financial conflict of interest in the drug research and approval process, the record of the FDA and the pharmaceutical industry is an utter disgrace - over 100,000 deaths and over 2,000,000 serious (non-lethal), adverse drug reactions, from FDA approved drugs in the U.S. every year, many from drugs that are later withdrawn from the market because it turned out they weren&#039;t safe or effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, you are so right.  Outright scientific fraud is epidemic.  But, worse, and more insidious, is scientific financial conflict of interest.  Virtually all scientific study is funded by capitalist concerns with a financial interest in the outcome.  Those involved in such research know what their job is &#8211; to serve the financial interests of their direct, or indirect, employer.  If the employer doesn&#8217;t like the outcome that it paid for, the researcher should expect to be hired again.  That&#8217;s why FDA approved pharmaceutical drugs can never be presumed to be either safe or effective.  Notwithstanding the blatent, open and obvious financial conflict of interest in the drug research and approval process, the record of the FDA and the pharmaceutical industry is an utter disgrace &#8211; over 100,000 deaths and over 2,000,000 serious (non-lethal), adverse drug reactions, from FDA approved drugs in the U.S. every year, many from drugs that are later withdrawn from the market because it turned out they weren&#8217;t safe or effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Cameron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/10/the-overwhelming-data-we-refuse-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-5936</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several flu vaccines contain approxiamately 25 mcg of mercury.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/vaccines.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several flu vaccines contain approxiamately 25 mcg of mercury.<br />
<a href="http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/vaccines.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/vaccines.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vegemite Sandwitch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/10/the-overwhelming-data-we-refuse-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-5869</link>
		<dc:creator>Vegemite Sandwitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You missed a critical point about the Berkeley climate study: it was funded by the Koch brothers!  http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2011/1021/Climate-study-funded-in-part-by-conservative-group-confirms-global-warming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed a critical point about the Berkeley climate study: it was funded by the Koch brothers!  <a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2011/1021/Climate-study-funded-in-part-by-conservative-group-confirms-global-warming" rel="nofollow">http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2011/1021/Climate-study-funded-in-part-by-conservative-group-confirms-global-warming</a></p>
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		<title>By: WilliamB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/10/the-overwhelming-data-we-refuse-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-5868</link>
		<dc:creator>WilliamB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andy: you are correct, thimerosol is no longer used in vaccines.

Wow - 6 of 13 comments.  That&#039;s pretty impressive, Anne D.  Do you usually comment so voluminously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy: you are correct, thimerosol is no longer used in vaccines.</p>
<p>Wow &#8211; 6 of 13 comments.  That&#8217;s pretty impressive, Anne D.  Do you usually comment so voluminously?</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy at #9. What Wakefield discovered is that the British Government kept a vaccine on the market that was made by a British Corporation (GSK) that had already been banned in Canada for causing Meningitis. He had to be destroyed. That&#039;s the whole premise for eveything that was done to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy at #9. What Wakefield discovered is that the British Government kept a vaccine on the market that was made by a British Corporation (GSK) that had already been banned in Canada for causing Meningitis. He had to be destroyed. That&#8217;s the whole premise for eveything that was done to him.</p>
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		<title>By: MinorityView</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/10/the-overwhelming-data-we-refuse-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-5760</link>
		<dc:creator>MinorityView</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Specter is the &quot;footnotes coming soon&quot; guy. He wrote a book. No footnotes, no efficient way to check the accuracy of anything he claims in the book. So he promised the footnotes would be posted online. We are STILL waiting for those darn footnotes. http://www.michaelspecter.com/denialism/footnotes-denialism/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Specter is the &#8220;footnotes coming soon&#8221; guy. He wrote a book. No footnotes, no efficient way to check the accuracy of anything he claims in the book. So he promised the footnotes would be posted online. We are STILL waiting for those darn footnotes. <a href="http://www.michaelspecter.com/denialism/footnotes-denialism/" rel="nofollow">http://www.michaelspecter.com/denialism/footnotes-denialism/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maurine meleck</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/10/the-overwhelming-data-we-refuse-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-5749</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurine meleck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not science when drug companies and the CDC carry out a vaccine safety study.  So please substitute the word science for &quot;junk science&quot;  &quot;pseudo science&quot;  &quot;just plan bad science&quot;  or let&#039;s trick the population into believing
that vaccines are the greatest contribution to mankind(except for Sponge Bob) science.
maurine meleck, SC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not science when drug companies and the CDC carry out a vaccine safety study.  So please substitute the word science for &#8220;junk science&#8221;  &#8220;pseudo science&#8221;  &#8220;just plan bad science&#8221;  or let&#8217;s trick the population into believing<br />
that vaccines are the greatest contribution to mankind(except for Sponge Bob) science.<br />
maurine meleck, SC</p>
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		<title>By: AnneDachel.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Michael Specter on denialism</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2011/10/the-overwhelming-data-we-refuse-to-believe/comment-page-1/#comment-5744</link>
		<dc:creator>AnneDachel.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Michael Specter on denialism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New Yorker.  In a story on Smithsonian.com called The Overwhelming Data We Refuse To Believe   HERE a video of Michael Specter is included. &#8220;If you don&#8217;t think that can happen here, [...]</description>
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