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	<title>Comments on: Telomeres and Longevity in Zebra Finches</title>
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		<title>By: Latoya M. Owens</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2012/02/telomeres-and-longevity-in-zebra-finches/comment-page-1/#comment-7037</link>
		<dc:creator>Latoya M. Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow you did quit a research there. It&#039;s almost hard to believe that those researchers have waited for 9 years for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keepingfinchesguide.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-finches-zebra/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;zebra finches&lt;/a&gt; to die before they could submit a paper about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow you did quit a research there. It&#8217;s almost hard to believe that those researchers have waited for 9 years for the <a href="http://www.keepingfinchesguide.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-finches-zebra/" rel="nofollow">zebra finches</a> to die before they could submit a paper about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Laden</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2012/02/telomeres-and-longevity-in-zebra-finches/comment-page-1/#comment-6356</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Laden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MadMax:

... and, somatic cell lines that are cancerous ten to get more rapidly shortening telomeres.  And yes, the link between cancer and shortened telomeres is the main link.  

Your point about telomere shortness and cancer is, of course, the whole point of the research; I mention the link between longer telomeres and/or increased telomerase activation and cancer for completeness.  It has not been  demonstrated and how this would work is unclear, but I refer you to Weinstein and Ciszek, (2002) if you want to know more about that. It probably isn&#039;t of any great importance, but it does bring up the basic question: Why aren&#039;t all telomeres very very long? 

The cancer causing explanation (just noted) is one possibility, another is energy use (longer telomeres = more energy used) and a third is that there is simply not selection against short telomeres or effecasious telomerase activity in lineages of short lived organisms, and thus some long lived organisms that evolved from short lived ones (like us) are unlucky (phylogenetic constraints can be a drag). 

See Dan Eisenberg&#039;s paper &quot;An evolutionary review of human telomere biology&quot; (American journal of human bilogy) from 2010 for a great overview of these questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MadMax:</p>
<p>&#8230; and, somatic cell lines that are cancerous ten to get more rapidly shortening telomeres.  And yes, the link between cancer and shortened telomeres is the main link.  </p>
<p>Your point about telomere shortness and cancer is, of course, the whole point of the research; I mention the link between longer telomeres and/or increased telomerase activation and cancer for completeness.  It has not been  demonstrated and how this would work is unclear, but I refer you to Weinstein and Ciszek, (2002) if you want to know more about that. It probably isn&#8217;t of any great importance, but it does bring up the basic question: Why aren&#8217;t all telomeres very very long? </p>
<p>The cancer causing explanation (just noted) is one possibility, another is energy use (longer telomeres = more energy used) and a third is that there is simply not selection against short telomeres or effecasious telomerase activity in lineages of short lived organisms, and thus some long lived organisms that evolved from short lived ones (like us) are unlucky (phylogenetic constraints can be a drag). </p>
<p>See Dan Eisenberg&#8217;s paper &#8220;An evolutionary review of human telomere biology&#8221; (American journal of human bilogy) from 2010 for a great overview of these questions.</p>
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		<title>By: MadMax</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadMax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lengthening of telomeres has not been shown to increase cancers and in fact the reverse is true in normal cells. We get cancers basically when we are old and the telomeres are short. Cancers cells do lengthen their telomeres to survive and thrive, but those are not normal cells and are already cancer cells.

To learn more you might want to check out Dr Ed Park MD MPH on youtube.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lengthening of telomeres has not been shown to increase cancers and in fact the reverse is true in normal cells. We get cancers basically when we are old and the telomeres are short. Cancers cells do lengthen their telomeres to survive and thrive, but those are not normal cells and are already cancer cells.</p>
<p>To learn more you might want to check out Dr Ed Park MD MPH on youtube.</p>
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