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	<title>Comments on: Can We Link Hurricane Sandy to Climate Change?</title>
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		<title>By: Right</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2012/10/can-we-link-hurricane-sandy-to-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-7771</link>
		<dc:creator>Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was just commenting on the immediate association with anthropogenic warming. Not that global warming isn&#039;t possible or can affect the weather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was just commenting on the immediate association with anthropogenic warming. Not that global warming isn&#8217;t possible or can affect the weather.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Funny, Mitt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2012/10/can-we-link-hurricane-sandy-to-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-7751</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Funny, Mitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The warmer water, AND the stabilization of the Rossby waves (jet stream wobbles) can both be attributed to climate change.  Yes, this hundred-year-storm (wasn&#039;t the last one two years ago??) would not be exactly like this without climate change, and yes we are seeing what was predicted, for the reasons that it was  predicted.

Welcome to the world as created (messed up) by mankind.  Time for the grownups to fix the problem and stop the lies and distortions spewed from the oil coal and gas companies.  They are the ONLY ones pushing the lie that this is &#039;natural&#039; or that we can &#039;adapt&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The warmer water, AND the stabilization of the Rossby waves (jet stream wobbles) can both be attributed to climate change.  Yes, this hundred-year-storm (wasn&#8217;t the last one two years ago??) would not be exactly like this without climate change, and yes we are seeing what was predicted, for the reasons that it was  predicted.</p>
<p>Welcome to the world as created (messed up) by mankind.  Time for the grownups to fix the problem and stop the lies and distortions spewed from the oil coal and gas companies.  They are the ONLY ones pushing the lie that this is &#8216;natural&#8217; or that we can &#8216;adapt&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Addicted</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2012/10/can-we-link-hurricane-sandy-to-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-7750</link>
		<dc:creator>Addicted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rereading my first comment, I was clearly a little rash when saying &quot;the article should not have seen the light of day&quot; especially since I think it is very correct about not being able to attribute climate change as Sandy&#039;s cause, but I do think it missed important research which shows how it is indeed possible to attribute weather events to climate change. 

If anything, the research strengthens the core claim of the article because Sandy is unlikely to meet the criteria for being easily attributable to climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rereading my first comment, I was clearly a little rash when saying &#8220;the article should not have seen the light of day&#8221; especially since I think it is very correct about not being able to attribute climate change as Sandy&#8217;s cause, but I do think it missed important research which shows how it is indeed possible to attribute weather events to climate change. </p>
<p>If anything, the research strengthens the core claim of the article because Sandy is unlikely to meet the criteria for being easily attributable to climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: Addicted</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2012/10/can-we-link-hurricane-sandy-to-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-7749</link>
		<dc:creator>Addicted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Right - I find it interesting that your response to an article stating (the scientifically correct position I may add) that we cannot attribute Sandy to Climate change is to mock scientists for a strawman claim that hurricanes cannot happen without global warming. 

Wonderful piece of logic there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Right &#8211; I find it interesting that your response to an article stating (the scientifically correct position I may add) that we cannot attribute Sandy to Climate change is to mock scientists for a strawman claim that hurricanes cannot happen without global warming. </p>
<p>Wonderful piece of logic there.</p>
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		<title>By: Addicted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Addicted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few issues with this article. 

1) As hansen&#039;s recent study pointed out, it is very possible, to scientifically attribute certain weather events to climate change with an extremely high level of certainty. 

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/new-study-ties-global-warming-recent-year-heat

Essentially, if we drew a graph with the intensity of a weather event along the x axis, and the frequency of the weather events on the y-axis, we would get something like a bell curve. Climate change would shift the bell curve rightwards. What this means is that events with such high intensities that they were outside the original curve&#039;s range of possibilities, but are nowossible (or go from impossibly unlikely to just very unlikely). If we experience a weather event of that nature, we can, with great certainty link that individual weather event to climate change. In fact, it would be scientifically disingenuous to dismiss Sandy as one of these, without further study.

2) Sandy cannot be seen in isolation. It must be seen in combination with Irene from last year too. We need to determine what the odds (and historical record) of 2 such storms occurring in consecutive years in this area are.

3) Uncertainty cuts both ways. Because we are less certain about the science of extreme weather events like Sandy doesn&#039;t mean that it is likely to be less bad than the predictions. It is equally likely that the predictions are underestimating the number and intensity of weather events under a modified climate. 

TBH, this article should not have seen the light of day in the 21st century. While we cannot as of now attribute Sandy to climate change, there are many physical and statistical mechanisms to link individual (or a group of) weather events to climate change, with very high degrees of certainty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few issues with this article. </p>
<p>1) As hansen&#8217;s recent study pointed out, it is very possible, to scientifically attribute certain weather events to climate change with an extremely high level of certainty. </p>
<p><a href="http://bigstory.ap.org/article/new-study-ties-global-warming-recent-year-heat" rel="nofollow">http://bigstory.ap.org/article/new-study-ties-global-warming-recent-year-heat</a></p>
<p>Essentially, if we drew a graph with the intensity of a weather event along the x axis, and the frequency of the weather events on the y-axis, we would get something like a bell curve. Climate change would shift the bell curve rightwards. What this means is that events with such high intensities that they were outside the original curve&#8217;s range of possibilities, but are nowossible (or go from impossibly unlikely to just very unlikely). If we experience a weather event of that nature, we can, with great certainty link that individual weather event to climate change. In fact, it would be scientifically disingenuous to dismiss Sandy as one of these, without further study.</p>
<p>2) Sandy cannot be seen in isolation. It must be seen in combination with Irene from last year too. We need to determine what the odds (and historical record) of 2 such storms occurring in consecutive years in this area are.</p>
<p>3) Uncertainty cuts both ways. Because we are less certain about the science of extreme weather events like Sandy doesn&#8217;t mean that it is likely to be less bad than the predictions. It is equally likely that the predictions are underestimating the number and intensity of weather events under a modified climate. </p>
<p>TBH, this article should not have seen the light of day in the 21st century. While we cannot as of now attribute Sandy to climate change, there are many physical and statistical mechanisms to link individual (or a group of) weather events to climate change, with very high degrees of certainty.</p>
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		<title>By: Right</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2012/10/can-we-link-hurricane-sandy-to-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-7747</link>
		<dc:creator>Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, because it&#039;s the first of it&#039;s kind ever. You &#039;science&#039; hacks give it a bad name, follow the method not some bs consensus. agw is a scam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, because it&#8217;s the first of it&#8217;s kind ever. You &#8216;science&#8217; hacks give it a bad name, follow the method not some bs consensus. agw is a scam.</p>
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