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	<title>Comments on: Scientists Dismiss Geo-Engineering as a Global Warming Quick Fix</title>
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		<title>By: G.R.L. Cowan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2013/01/scientists-dismiss-geo-engineering-as-a-global-warming-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-9755</link>
		<dc:creator>G.R.L. Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 18:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wegener Institute study finds large amounts of energy are needed to pulverize olivine in such a way that it can be dropped on depp parts of the ocean.

This is because the particles must be very small for their sink rate in seawater to be slow enough that they do their CO2 capturing in the top few hundred metres. Only at those shallow depths does decarbonating the sea help to decarbonate the atmosphere.

But there is also the possibility of dispersing much larger olivine particles in shallow coastal areas, and on land, and the very large energy savings realized by not grinding the stuff so fine make this approach -- further discussed at http://www.innovationconcepts.eu/res/literatuurSchuiling/olivineagainstclimatechange23.pdf -- much more practicable.

40 gigatonnes, when pulverized in this easier way, is not an excessive amount. Not if we&#039;re trying to prevent the flooding of all coastal cities, and have governments that, because they net a trillion or so dollars annually from fossil fuel royalties and excise taxes, are hostile to effective fossil fuel substitutes and conservation measures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wegener Institute study finds large amounts of energy are needed to pulverize olivine in such a way that it can be dropped on depp parts of the ocean.</p>
<p>This is because the particles must be very small for their sink rate in seawater to be slow enough that they do their CO2 capturing in the top few hundred metres. Only at those shallow depths does decarbonating the sea help to decarbonate the atmosphere.</p>
<p>But there is also the possibility of dispersing much larger olivine particles in shallow coastal areas, and on land, and the very large energy savings realized by not grinding the stuff so fine make this approach &#8212; further discussed at <a href="http://www.innovationconcepts.eu/res/literatuurSchuiling/olivineagainstclimatechange23.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.innovationconcepts.eu/res/literatuurSchuiling/olivineagainstclimatechange23.pdf</a> &#8212; much more practicable.</p>
<p>40 gigatonnes, when pulverized in this easier way, is not an excessive amount. Not if we&#8217;re trying to prevent the flooding of all coastal cities, and have governments that, because they net a trillion or so dollars annually from fossil fuel royalties and excise taxes, are hostile to effective fossil fuel substitutes and conservation measures.</p>
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		<title>By: Raphaelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2013/01/scientists-dismiss-geo-engineering-as-a-global-warming-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-8665</link>
		<dc:creator>Raphaelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIES! Millions of people world wide have woken up to the fact that MASSIVE geoengineering projects have been going on for a while now (at least since 1997 when the chemtrail program went National and began to spread out), as they started noticing strange phenomenas in their skies and their health. More popularly known as &quot;chemtrails&quot;, global warming is only ONE excuse for the Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering program that is &quot;covering the earth&quot; at this time. Sending more planes up as a counter measure to rising CO2 emissions makes no sense... the real reason is to turn the atmosphere into a plasma layer that they can send their energy weather tools &amp; weapons through space... Also, 2 out of the 3 people I know with the synthetic man-made Morgellons Disease, got it from touching funny material that &quot;fell out&quot; after the spraying of a &quot;web-like&quot; material. The WORLD METEOROLOGICAL ORGANIZATION states in 2007, that &quot;in recent years, there has been a decline in the support for weather modification research, and a tendency to move directly into operational projects&quot;... Governments coming out now to say we must look into it (Solar Radiation Management- SRMGI), is a complete LIE... that is ONE of the reasons the weather is so screwy in the first place in recent years... along with HAARP and other TOYS, they have made quite a mess of things... watch also &quot;What in the World Are They Spraying&quot;, if this is all foreign to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIES! Millions of people world wide have woken up to the fact that MASSIVE geoengineering projects have been going on for a while now (at least since 1997 when the chemtrail program went National and began to spread out), as they started noticing strange phenomenas in their skies and their health. More popularly known as &#8220;chemtrails&#8221;, global warming is only ONE excuse for the Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering program that is &#8220;covering the earth&#8221; at this time. Sending more planes up as a counter measure to rising CO2 emissions makes no sense&#8230; the real reason is to turn the atmosphere into a plasma layer that they can send their energy weather tools &amp; weapons through space&#8230; Also, 2 out of the 3 people I know with the synthetic man-made Morgellons Disease, got it from touching funny material that &#8220;fell out&#8221; after the spraying of a &#8220;web-like&#8221; material. The WORLD METEOROLOGICAL ORGANIZATION states in 2007, that &#8220;in recent years, there has been a decline in the support for weather modification research, and a tendency to move directly into operational projects&#8221;&#8230; Governments coming out now to say we must look into it (Solar Radiation Management- SRMGI), is a complete LIE&#8230; that is ONE of the reasons the weather is so screwy in the first place in recent years&#8230; along with HAARP and other TOYS, they have made quite a mess of things&#8230; watch also &#8220;What in the World Are They Spraying&#8221;, if this is all foreign to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith B. Rosenberg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2013/01/scientists-dismiss-geo-engineering-as-a-global-warming-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-8638</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith B. Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article makes it sound as if scientists are looking for a single solution. This may not be a quick and singular fix, but it could be one element in a larger plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article makes it sound as if scientists are looking for a single solution. This may not be a quick and singular fix, but it could be one element in a larger plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Arnold</title>
		<link>http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2013/01/scientists-dismiss-geo-engineering-as-a-global-warming-quick-fix/comment-page-1/#comment-8597</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 12:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding a little (more) sun dimming aerosol to the air would be a cheap and very effective counter to increased GHG levels.  Furthermore, there is a new clean very very cheap and super abundant energy technology emerging (LENR) that will lead to mankind dramatically and rapidly cutting their GHG emissions - not because it is a clean energy technology, but because it is so much cheaper than any other energy technology.  Using nickel and hydrogen the fuel density is around half a million times as energy dense as gasoline!  Leonardo is going to release credible third-party evaluation showing a COP of around 10 for their 1 megawatt reactor that they will soon have on the market.  Defkalion and others aren&#039;t far behind.  According the Forbes.com &quot;energy will be too cheap to meter&quot; using LENR.

Why not use geo-engineering as a band-aide approach for the short run until LENR replaces every other energy technology and GHG levels drop naturally?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding a little (more) sun dimming aerosol to the air would be a cheap and very effective counter to increased GHG levels.  Furthermore, there is a new clean very very cheap and super abundant energy technology emerging (LENR) that will lead to mankind dramatically and rapidly cutting their GHG emissions &#8211; not because it is a clean energy technology, but because it is so much cheaper than any other energy technology.  Using nickel and hydrogen the fuel density is around half a million times as energy dense as gasoline!  Leonardo is going to release credible third-party evaluation showing a COP of around 10 for their 1 megawatt reactor that they will soon have on the market.  Defkalion and others aren&#8217;t far behind.  According the Forbes.com &#8220;energy will be too cheap to meter&#8221; using LENR.</p>
<p>Why not use geo-engineering as a band-aide approach for the short run until LENR replaces every other energy technology and GHG levels drop naturally?</p>
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